Georgia Poison Center: Kids Using Nutmeg To Get High

[The Straight Story]

Georgia Poison Center: Kids Using Nutmeg To Get High


ATLANTA -- Nutmeg is a commonly used spice in cooking. But while you use it took bake, your kids might be using it to get baked.

The director for the Georgia Poison Center said they are starting to receive more and more calls of people getting sick off of nutmeg.

Gaylord Lopez said if kids consume 1 tablespoon or more in a short amount of time they can have serious health risks, even death.

“A tablespoon or more could be a problem,” Lopez said. "If you take that amount and it happens to someone in a lower weight, you could be talking about symptoms that are life-threatening. When you look at social media outlets like YouTube, that is the tragedy of today, information gets shared so quickly and readily and oftentimes we can’t patrol what our kids are doing on the Internet. It might seem somewhat benign at first, but behind, lurks a danger."

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/news/25952215/detail.html

[theaocp]

1. Hey drug warriors!

You.are.all.fucking.idiots. Cannabis has never killed a single person at any point in all of recorded history. I'm not advocating its use for minors, but when you create a false sense of danger around one of the most benign substances known to mankind, look what slips through the cracks. What's next? A return to baking banana peels? Christ. :mad:

[cleanhippie]

4. I tried that once.

What a disaster!

[Ganja Ninja]

26. I tried it once in the Navy.

We were hard up for a buzz. It was nasty. We mixed it with honey and choked it down. The buzz was only so so and we kept belching up the taste for two or 3 days.
:puke:

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. In true excess it could

Just saying. Granted the most I saw as a medic was a case of th giggles and munchies.

Everything, and I mean this, everything in excess can kill. I gave the example of licorice down thread.

[theaocp]

11. To OD on cannabis

you'd have to ingest 1,500 lbs. in about 15 minutes. Impossible. :hi:

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Or a concentrate of the active ingredient

[AlabamaLibrul]

14. That's a hell of a concentrate. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. It is

But it is possible...just because something is not easy.

[asdjrocky]

21. No, it is not possible.

The most that will happen to someone who ingests too much cannabis, concentrated or otherwise, is they fall asleep. Now, if you can supply one real link that shows a single death from cannabis or a single actual overdose (not just some person who got too high) then I'll say I'm wrong.

[theaocp]

22. Sorry, not buying it

I don't believe it's possible to create that strong of a concentrate and have it available for someone to actually ingest. I'm not trying to hate, but it seems like an unneeded fear. JMHO. :smoke:

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. As I said saying it is possible

Does not mean it is practical.

You know who'd do it? Insert spy agency here...they love crap like that.

And this is not fear, but reality...anything in sufficient quantity will kill you, that includes water.

Should I be afraid of water now?

Jesus, there are days.

[theaocp]

27. What reality?

No one has done this in all of recorded human history. If you're not creating fear with this baseless, unfounded hyperbole, what are you trying to accomplish? Show people the reality of their mortality? As you said, there are days.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. If you are afraid of facts

That's your issue buddy, not mine.

[theaocp]

32. Anyway

I'm still unsure on what "facts" you're referring to. You're right, though, in that we can use anything to excess and that does include water. So what? Come up with an example of concentrated cannabis that would equal the amount of 1,500 lbs. that a human could ingest in 15 minutes or less or step off. Sheer exaggeration and silliness. I gotta go hit my bubbler. Sheesh.

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. Enjoy

Whatever!!!!

[theaocp]

24. That's just ingesting THC

not the same thing as ODing on cannabis. Just sayin'... :smoke:

[EOTE]

36. Even less likely.

There is no LD50 ratio for THC. Also, most cannabis is around 5% or so THC. So you'd still need to consume far more THC than is possible for any human being to consume in order to approach a fatal dose. I think the fact that NO ONE has ever died from a THC overdose should be a pretty big clue to its safeness as a drug. Can any pharmaceutical drug make that claim?

on edit: You should also know that humans can't metabolize THC through ingestion without the aid of fat or alcohol. So in addition to the 100+ pounds of pure THC, the person would also need to consume a good amount of fat and/or alcohol to provide a way for the THC to be absorbed into the bloodstream. So yeah, consume 100+ pounds of pure THC along with several pounds of fat and/or alcohol and yeah, you'll die (unless you skipped the alcohol in which case you'll be really lethargic for a few days).

[nadinbrzezinski]

Once again did not say it was practical

Now I am going to be really condescending. Do I need crayons?

Jeeze dying from a water OD is just slightly easier but it's happened.

[EOTE]

38. But you did say it was possible.

And no, it does not appear in the slightest to be possible. You can overdose on aspirin, for sure. You can even overdose on water. You cannot overdose on THC. I'm very interested in anything you have that says otherwise.

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. I stand by what I said

And that's it...hide thread friend.


Have a good day.

[cleanhippie]

42. I think the point trying to be made here is...

while yes, just about ANYTHING is "possible", to OD on cannabis is technically impossible, as one could not ingest enough weed to OD, as one would explode their stomach first. If a "concentrate" is possible, how would that be done? If it can be done, it has been done (hashish, anyone) and if it has been done, its available. Since nothing like that is available, it is logical to think that perhaps it cannot be done, thus, no cannabis OD.

I understand your assertion, as I think the others do, but unless you have something definitive, it really is "impossible" to OD on cannabis.

[EOTE]

44. So, your word against the past 5000 years of observation and hard science.

Well, I guess as long as you stand by what you say, that's all the proof I need.

[EOTE]

39. Do you know why people die from water overdosing?

It's because water actually enters into your bloodstream after consumption. Consume too much water and your blood becomes too thin and you die. Humans can't even bring THC into their bloodstream through ingestion without the use of fat or alcohol. So, it's either smoke about 1500lbs of bud in around 15 minutes (impossible) or consume dozens of pounds of pure THC along with several pounds of fat for the THC molecules to adhere to. Either way, it's not going to happen.

[Diclotican]

28. theaocp

theaocp

Thats means ca 1.5 kg of cannabis and I doubt, from some of my friends who are using, or have been using cannabis that i posible to smoke in a 15 minute vindow. even a seasoned cannabis smoker can't beat the law of nature.... 1.5 kg of cannabis is a LOT of cannabis, and you might get to sleep long before the first 5-10 grams of cannabis is up in smoke (so to say)

But this others, wel some kids are allways using some new "inventions" to get high... Maybe the best had to bee legalize cannabis, and get some of it under control after all?... To use this other means of stuffs, to get high is both dangrous, and could have effects for the rest of the life if an accident happend...

Diclotican

[theaocp]

33. Actually, that means 681.81 kg

Check it out!

Ultimately, you're right: it's impossible. Can you imagine smoking even 5 grams in 15 minutes? What a waste! That's an eighth and a half! My lungs would be crying bloody murder!

I agree completely that cannabis should be regulated, but if they're not going to do that, the least they can do is be consistent and make alcohol and tobacco Schedule I substances, like bud. Freaking hypocrites...

[Diclotican]

43. theaocp

theaocp

True, I might do it wrong.. But if I am not to wrong about it, 1.5 kg of Cannabis, can in theory kill a person.. But it would be imposible to smoke it in a timeframe of 15-20 minutes... Not even me, who have never tasted the stuff can understand that consept (I once tried smoke regular smoke, got so sick that I never tried it again, I was 12 and stupid:P) And for what some of my friends who have used the stuff have told, you should be wasted into another world if you try to smoke more than 5 grams, in a hour or so.. 5 grams in 15 minutes... Then you would be totaly out of it... Even one of my former nabours, who was a drug addict by excelence, could not smoke 5 grams in just 15 minutes.. Thankfully he was sendt to another place and the nabourhood got far more peacefully by it...

I would say it would be better to regulate cannabis, not just becouse it is a drug who can be used by grownups in a way you can live with.. The drug is rather "peacefully" according to what I understand of it all. But it should be regulated by law, not just prize, who should be lower than today, but also the quality of the drug should be regulated. Maybe get some old stoners to oversee the qulaity of the product, they know what type of cannabis who is best I guess:) And then maybe regulate it agevice.. Like minimum 16-18 year old, with some regulation of how mutch you can have on your body if police is controlling you... 15-20 grams of Cannabis should be more than enough for personal use I would say!. And at least de-criminlize the personal use of Cannabis.. Maybe get in some form of regulations, like we have with medicines?.. You can buy your cannabis in a farmacy, with your cold medisine, or other meidsine you need.. At fixed prices, and with a guranty that the cannabis you are getting have a decent qualtity or the price... But you have to keep your recipt with you to you get home, so the police can't bust you for cannabis posessions.. Or if you have an illness, you can, as it does in California get allowance for it, by doctors... If we want, regardness of country, we can regulate it as we do with beers and stronger liquers...

But then many would not have a political platform to play "tuff on crime".. So I guess it would not be easy to do either in US or in Norway for a long time.. Even tho most peopole in both country are beliving that cannabis should be regulated, rather than forbidden...

Diclotican

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Licorice in excess can also land you into the ICU

It is used to encourage lactation in the East.

There's a lot of things out there that are good, even great in small quantities than can kill you.

[woodsprite]

3. Buy your nutmeg now, because they'll be making us sign for it soon.

Water can be OD'd on too. Maybe if they quit dumbing down the population, people would regain their common sense.

[Toucano]

40. Nutmeg is more lethal than cocaine or alcohol.

The ratio of effective does to fatal dose is much smaller for nutmeg.

[superduperfarleft]

6. Seriously, who hasn't tried this?

And I never got high off it, just sick.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Me...I lived a pretty boring life

The worst I did, and hated them, were plain vanilla marlboros.

[GoCubsGo]

20. Me, either. Had no idea nutmeg could make you high.

On the other hand, I knew all about the happy gas in the whipped cream cans.

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. I treated, not successfully mind you, a code from that

Not a happy scene.

[mitchtv]

37. I think we used Mace in HS

same plant different part of the nut. It was strange , slightly unpleasant, burping up was no fun

[alfredo]

10. Nutmeg is a prison high. Reminds me of DMT, but not as

intense. It left me lethargic the next day.

[Edweird]

17. I haven't, but then I was always around real drugs.

[LeftinOH]

8. First they came after my allergy medecine; now they're after my baking supplies. n/t

[snooper2]

9. more darwin awards...the weed is proven and safe.

Although illegal, but still... Nutmeg :rofl:

Check out this video.

Aughh...it's fucking nasty....drink water... Do one more :rofl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_kZkZIYiew

[Mimosa]

13. Ah ha!!! Pumpkin spice coffee is dope by another name! LOL! n/t

[Erose999]

16. You can get stoned on red pepper too, if you can handle the spice.

Eating a whole lot of spicy stuff can make you feel about like smoking pot. Not quite as strong, but its still a high. Sucks the next day though... lol.

Inhalants were big when I was a teen. Some of my friends would go steal the freon from their neighbors air conditioning units.

[Blue_In_AK]

18. Those Wyamine inhalers were the worst.

I did that one time when I was young and stupid ... took the cotton out of the middle and ingested it. It was flashy, but, boy, was I messed up for a couple of days.

[CrownPrinceBandar]

19. I had a friend who ate some ghost pepper.....

and swears they had an out-of-body experience.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_Jolokia_pepper

[csziggy]

30. Morning glory seeds, coleus leaves, datura, peyote, Psilocybin mushrooms, etal

Marijuana, hashish, LSD, opium, glue sniffing, nitrous oxide, etc. All those are things I have seen used to get high in my life - not just high, but a psychoactive experience. (I consider stimulants such as various versions of cocaine and methamphetamines to be a completely different class of material.)

Hair - Hashish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp12yRMlpNQ

There have always been things that people, especially young people, will try to get high or have an "out of body" experience. Anthropologists have found indications that people have done this for nearly as long as there have been people. I don't know of any culture that has successfully prevented all their citizens from partaking in some form of intoxicating or psychoactive substance.

Personally I think it would be better to allow some experimentation and indulgence in substances known to not be immediately harmful so that they can be used in a more controlled fashion. Blocking all use and experimentation of known substances tends to drive people to seek more fringe and more dangerous materials in uncontrolled circumstances. Either can lead to serious problems and overdoses.

[librechik]

31. I used to try shit like that when I couldn't get marijuana

Why is marijuana illegal? And anyone can buy nutmeg?

[Igel]

34. Yeah, well, there's a reason it's banned in Saudiyya. n/t