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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:53 PM
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How did we pick up only 2 seats in the election?
Zero senate gains I can understand, but only 2 house gains?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:55 PM
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1. A lot more media "face time" for Senatorial candidates. House ones don't get the same
scrutiny.

At least that is one theory I have heard,
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:56 PM
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2. The Citizens United decision.
The election was decided the moment the Roberts-Scalia junta gave corporate power the explicit right to buy the election.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:20 PM
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10. Sorry, but I have to disagree...
...all the advertising in the world won't work if it doesn't build on beliefs and prejudices that the consumer already has. The voters were unhappy about the Democrats because 1) we never told them what we accomplished and why it was important, and 2) why we DIDN'T accomplish things they wanted and what we were going to do about them in the future.

I had a chats with Nancy Pelosi and Chris Van Hollen, and their message was that Democratic House candidates "knew the local issues". Maybe they did, but we never had a consistent message on the national issues -- and our opponents did.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:56 PM
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3. If you don't get the change you were promised.......
you lose seats, then the White House.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:58 PM
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4. Black Box Voting?
Of course, they wouldn't do that, would they?
They have the means, the motive and the opportunity, indeed.
But we can be sure they wouldn't steal votes, right?
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:30 PM
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6. I don't think so
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 04:30 PM by Ter
Many close races went to the Democrat. Polls before hand indicated we could lose 40-80 House Seats, and 6-8 Senate seats. It turned out about what the polls said. The only race that raised eyebrows was Sharon Angle's 5 point loss, but she was a Republican.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:43 PM
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7. See? There it is.
"I don't think so.

Nope, the system said we were gonna lose and the system always tells the truth, and we can trust
the system, and the system has proven that it is always right. So stfu and trust the vote count."


I've heard it a million times and have never put faith in that.

You have no way of proving that the BBV didn't steal the elections. None.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:00 PM
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8. And you have no way of proving Sharon Angle's race wasn't stolen
Are you saying every pollster is in on a conspiracy?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:13 PM
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9. Are you saying you trust the pollsters?
I wouldn't dare trust the pollsters.
Or the BBV.

Do you? You seem to trust both.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:36 PM
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13. Well they can't all lie at once
I don't think there was a massive conspiracy. Even tiny independent pollsters said the Democrats would lose a lot of seats. Not saying none were stolen, but overall I think it was about right. How many do you think were stolen?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:12 PM
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14. well
Virtually any one of them could have been stolen.

California: The most advanced election protection state in the US.
And pretty much a majority of Dems elected, which is, as it were, the way things in this country SHOULD be, right?

The difference is.... you trust the pollsters and the voting machines and I don't.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:28 PM
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5. Who are the two?
We gained just 4 in 1994.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:21 PM
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12. Cao in LA-02 and then Abercrombie's old seat in HI nt
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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:23 PM
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16. I was looking at Cao's seat and DE-1. I forgot about Hawaii. So, it's 3 seats, not 2. nt
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:24 PM
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17. I forgot about Castle's seat in DE. :)
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:21 PM
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11. Hip you local boys to the 'West Coast Offense'
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:13 PM
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15. "Progressives" prefer
Rs.
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