This guy was breaking the law as well and stood up to the powers that be

[The Straight Story]

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Indeed he was.

And we forget him at our peril...

:patriot:

[AuntPatsy]

2. Kicking and a hardy reccommend

:toast:

[Goldstein1984]

3. When truth becomes an enemy of the state

those who speak the truth become criminals, traitors and terrorists.

[kath]

35. + a brazillion

[pipi_k]

4. And you know what...

this is way more admirable than a bunch of hackers going around disrupting things for others.


This guy stood alone. He exhibited bravery and honor in what he did.



hackers are bullies. They're anonymous and they work in packs.

fucking cowards compared to this guy.


Nobody should even consider sullying this man's bravery by comparing his acts to the underhanded and anonymous trashing those hackers are doing.

[gater]

6. Admirable wins wars?

Gee, let us all piss and moan about our problems on message boards a bit more, that always seems to advance the cause!

[spanone]

10. gee....you're pissing & moaning about people pissing & moaning.

[timtom]

15. Yeah. And now YOU'RE ....wait!!

Now I'M doing...my god it's like a hall of mirrors.

[kayakjohnny]

31. !

:thumbsup:

[blondeatlast]

14. It's an OPINION board. You'll find opinions on it--but if you want to piss and moan

about opinions on an OPINION board; well, in the name of civility, I'll stop here...

[pipi_k]

22. No...not being stupid wins wars

And who's pissing and moaning about their problems?

I'm saying that it's repulsive beyond belief to compare the honor and bravery of this one man with what those Wikileak hackers are doing. Anonymously. From the safety of their keyboards.

Even Julian Assange himself, who probably could, if he tried, could call off the dogs and fight this on his own just like that one guy in that photo.

But he won't. Which makes him as big a piece of shit as his "supporters" who are sitting around being disruptive little assholes.

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[pipi_k]

23. Yeah, because, like, you know me so well

The fact of it is, I thought what he did was incredibly brave. I still do.

I think that anybody who takes on the "Powers that be" all by themselves is incredibly brave.

I do NOT think that people who threaten violence or mischief or mayhem done by their anonymous minions is brave.

[JuniperLea]

9. Yep...

And it's sad the distinction isn't seen clearly here.

We hated Cheney for doing this same thing, but now we praise another.

[Matariki]

11. Why don't you read this article

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/index.html

It's very informative.

[pipi_k]

26. WOW!!! Cheney stood all alone in front of a bunch of armed tanks?

What was he protesting...a shortage of ass boil salve?


:eyes:

[AuntPatsy]

16. It is a different world today and yes those young men are brave regardless of

What you and few others might view them as............

[TwilightGardener]

20. Agreed. Pure silliness. Nothing's easier than sitting in your underpants

in your bedroom, clicking on the computer, thinking you'll never get caught. Putting your own body and life on the line by comparison--that is more courage than I'll ever have.

[Lars39]

21. He may have been alone in front of that tank, but he had the support

and participation of the rest of the students behind him.

[pipi_k]

28. And none of them was sitting anonymously in front of a computer screen

far away where nobody could hurt them.


Again...anybody who launches, or participates in, a cyberwar from the safety of his own living room or basement is a coward. With a capital "C".

[Lars39]

29. If there had been anything that could have been done to further

the protests in that way, it would have been done.

[walldude]

24. Aww did your day get disrupted?

Did you have trouble with your credit cards? Try sitting in fucking jail on trumped up charges and then tell me again how it's the hackers who are the bullies. You just got a tax increase shoved down your throat, you just got a 2% reduction in SS shoved down your throat. You just sat back and watched while your president took from the poor and gave it to the rich. Tell me again who the bullies are?

You want to talk criminal acts by bullies? Well let's talk about Vietnam, or Iran-Contra or Panama, or Grenada, or Iraq or Afghanistan or Torture, or War Crimes.. the list is endless. They do it and laugh in our faces about how untouchable they are. I can't imagine why all these powerless people are cheering on people who are showing that we aren't as powerless as we think. :rofl: :rofl:

[pipi_k]

34. No, my day was just fine, thanks

Once again...

Hackers who sit anonymously in front of their computer screens causing havoc are cowards.

If Julian Assange wants to be an honorable man, he'll do what's right and fight just like anyone else who's ever had to fight alone something bigger than themselves.

[tekisui]

25. I think it is important to distinguish wikileaks from the hackers.

They are not one and the same.

[okieinpain]

33. man, i have to agree with this post. going out there like that is way

different then sitting down in front of the 23" lcd screen, and drinking red bulls as fast as you can open them.

[elias49]

5. If this is a reference to Assange, it's damaged thought-train

Nobody has decided he's breaking the law yet. Haven't designed a retroactive law yet to charge him.
I appreciate your sentiment, but we all need to be careful no to fall into the "guilty man fighting for right" meme.

[leftstreet]

7. What laws has Assange broken?

I missed something

[Swamp Rat]

18. +1

[tekisui]

27. That really bad one...er...it is something... maybe.....

Holder is desperately trying to concoct something to charge him with.

[Recursion]

38. Bingo

Some of his sources have broken laws, but Assange himself is not under any obligation to follow US document classification.

[rocktivity]

12. These guys, too

:evilgrin: (if you'll pardon the smiley)
rocktivity

[NoPasaran]

17. Moses wasn't actually breaking a law

Rather a union rule requiring each tablet be carried by an individual tablet bearer. Some of the boys had a "talk" with him, and let's just say Moses' tablet carrying days were over.

[walldude]

13. That's not a guy it's a woman...

More guts than anyone I had seen in years. K&R

[EmeraldCityGrl]

19. K&R

[Occam Bandage]

30. Tank Man was risking a very real possibility of immediate death.

Hundreds of protesters had been gunned down at that point, and I have to believe that most tank crews would have run him over without a second thought.

Julian Assange is risking a fine and possibly a brief prison sentence for trumped-up charges of sexual assault.

Tank Man was keeping an avenue of escape open for fleeing protesters, and in doing so saved the lives of thousands of young pro-democratic activists.

Julian Assange embarrassed a bunch of diplomats.

(And as for Anonymous? Good luck, they're behind seven proxies.)

[Starbucks Anarchist]

36. And he's threatening blackmail in the event he's killed.

Tank Man didn't have that kind of protection.

[Recursion]

39. Anybody else remember their anti-scientology stuff?

I was in SFO at that point and there were a ton of Guy Fawkes mask people parading around in front of Scientology centers. And getting harassed and photographed by scientologists. It didn't seem to have much effect in the end, though.

[kernelfarmer]

32. K&R (nt)

[ZombieHorde]

37. I am pretty sure that person was blind and not sure where she was going.

Fortunately, she is at a cross walk, so the tanks probably stopped.

[Faryn Balyncd]

40. And so was THIS guy. . . . . . . . . . . . . :

http://palsolidarity.org/2010/08/13460/



As was this brave woman:









http://www.usnewslink.com/rachelcorrie.htm








(K&R, Thanks for reminding us, Straight Story)