Fox News just censured me from their opinion forum

[MindandSoul]

For the last 3 evenings, I have been visiting Fox News
"opinion" forum, and was very happily posting
answers to outrageous, insulting, mostly stupid and uneducated
posts by Fox News' addicts.

Several of my posts were censured and just
"disappeared" from the forum.  But, as of tonight at
6 pm, I showed 68 posts and 64 "like" on those
posts.

Then, a few minutes ago, I tried to return to the forum, but
was no longer "logged in."
I attempted to log in several times, but my e-mail and user
name were not recognized.  I then selected the "don't
remember password" selection and was asked to enter my
e-mail.  I did that and received repeated replies stating that
"my e-mail address was not valid!"

Have any of you experienced this before?  It is obviously
their chicken way of censuring people who are disagreeing with
the "Fox News addict profile" and who, in spite of
not being in the mainstream of Fox News addicts, receives
significant positive responses.

Is there any way to go through their "censure"
process.  
I even tried to register again as a new member, by using an
alternate e-mail address. . .but once again I got the message
of "this e-mail address is not valid,"  which seems
to indicate that they are censuring not just the e-mail
address but the IP address.

Any suggestion???

[rucky]

1. Post on Yahoo boards

It's chock full o' nuts

[MindandSoul]

2. Thank you for the suggestion. . .but why accept censure of our free speech???

This is why the Fox News addicts are so convinced that "AMERICA" agrees with them!
They ONLY hear and read people who are ACCEPTED in their bubble. . .

[RetroLounge]

14. Free Speech?

Please, since when is Fox News the gov't?

(Yeah, but I mean, legally)

RL

[MindandSoul]

21. I guess, although I haven't had a high opinion of Fox News for a few years,

I was still innocent enough to believe that they had some sense of fairness!

I guess I'll continue to learn even in my "golden years!"

[rucky]

36. Same with DU

FOX is a right wing political community

[Jim Lane]

55. Not the same because DU makes no pretense. Fox does.

DU: This is a forum for progressives/Democrats.
Fox News: We're fair and balanced.

So, right, it's not a First Amendment issue but it's hypocrisy.

[yourout]

3. newsvine is just as bad.

[BadgerKid]

4. Some ideas...

1. If it's by IP address, you can try an open proxy. This involves changing your browser's network settings.
2. See if there's any relevant regular cookies or Flash cookies and delete those.
3. try 1 and 2.

[Angry Dragon]

5. Call the fbi

they sound like a terrorist organization

[Sonoman]

6. If you can, use a different computer.

They have flagged whatever-you-call your computer's 'address'.

Good luck and keep up the good fight.

Sonoman

[virgogal]

7. Why would you even care about this?

[MindandSoul]

10. I do care about freedom of speech AND about the main reason why so

many otherwise "nice" and "intelligent" people appear to be totally brainwashed by Fox News.

I believe that, by keeping dissending opinions off their opinion sites (at least if those dissending opinions receive some positive attention) Fox News is building a "bubble" around their carefully brainwashed addicts, and is in that way interfering with people's right to free speech.

You may think that this is not important. . .I believe that, in ONE case alone, it may not be important, even if I am the victim of this. BUT, if it is an ongoing "policy," it is a clear interference with people's liberties and a clear indication of their purposeful attempt to repress any dissending opinions.

[Occam Bandage]

22. This isn't a matter of freedom of speech.

Their forums are a private institution, and as such they can decide what they want to publish and what they don't want to publish. It's no more an infringement of freedom of speech than it is that they haven't given me a book deal.

[MindandSoul]

29. I understand your point. However, it is telling that they allow ONLY one opinion to be expressed.

and I do not believe that it is a known fact among their fervent listeners and bloggers.

[Occam Bandage]

33. It's normal for a political forum to only allow one half of the spectrum to post freely.

DU does the same thing.

[Ozymanithrax]

8. Create a new email address and try again.

Sounds like they put, at minimum, they blocked your email address.

[spanone]

9. a badge of honor

[MindandSoul]

17. Thank you. I do realize that, and will wear that badge proudly! (smile!)

[Freetradesucks]

OK, so what?

Message boards all over the internet moderate the responses, including this one!

[Creative]

11. I believe that "censured" is what other posters could do to you.

If you mean "censor," only the government can do that.

[MindandSoul]

12. You're kidding, right??? Officially, maybe! But obviously it is happening to me right now, and

whether you want to use "censor" or "censure" (my first language is French. . .I'm sorry if my spelling offends your sensitivity!!!), I was unaware that it was just an acceptable practice in the "fair" media. . .or among Democratic posters!

[Creative]

18. Actually, they are two different words, with two different meanings.

[oldhippie]

19. Do you think DU doesn't "censure" any posts? ....

Is DU "fair media"? Only the gov't is prohibited from supressing free speech. Not private organizations like Faux News or DU.

We do want consistency, right?

[Creative]

23. Yes, quite a bit of "censuring" goes on around here.

But there is no "censoring."

[MindandSoul]

24. I do not want consistency. . .I want fairness! And I accept that obscenity

or personal insults are not acceptable from anyone. . .but opinions should be freely expressed.

And I thought that "socialist countries" were accused of repressing people's thoughts and opinions!

Silly me!

[oldhippie]

32. Fairness?

"... or personal insults are not acceptable from anyone. . .but opinions should be freely expressed."

Try expressing some right wing opinions around here and see what happens.

It's called "tombstoning." Those are the rules here. It's not supposed to be "fair."

[MindandSoul]

40. I have seen right wing opinions here, and they have gotten a lot of push back from posters

but I wasn't aware they had been banned???
And if they were banned, did the moderators notify them?

Just curious.

[stevenleser]

26. It's not considered the same thing in American jurisprudence

Private organizations have the right to regulate what is said on their property and what is written in their media. This is what prevents you from going into work and disrupting meetings, sending nasty emails to people, etc. If you do this, they will at a minimum stop you from doing it and more likely fire you.

If you were out on a public road and speaking, or writing in a government forum and they stopped you from speaking or writing, that is considered censorship and a restriction on your freedom of speech.

You will note that the protections in the bill of rights that concern this speak of congress and governments, not private entities.

1st amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

[MindandSoul]

30. Thank you. Interesting information. I still do not like the fact that our media

is able to keep their listeners in a bubble in order to have an easier time creating one mindset and brainwashing.

But I recognize that it is their right.

[MindandSoul]

15. Thank you for the clarification. As I said before, my first language is NOT English but French

So I hope you will forgive my confusion. . .since the word "censor" in English is the equivalent of the word "Censure" in French.

But I believe you understood the meaning of my post???

[Occam Bandage]

13. I am outraged that a political forum would engage in censorship.

I would never participate in any forum that restricts speech in any way whatsoever. Never.

[littlewolf]

16. same thing happens here ... and other boards

some boards call it ban stick ...
here you call it tombstoning .... same difference ...
you must of upset someone who notified an admin
and poof ... your gone ...

[MindandSoul]

20. And there I was. . .thinking that only obscenities could get you censored without at least an

explanation!

[crim son]

28. I would have thought the same, simply because it's

a board associated with a news organization, and there is a presumption that the news organization would welcome all views. I wouldn't have compared it to DU. But Pox is more about propaganda than news so I guess it's not surprising that you were banned.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

25. Thier forums... thier rules. You have no rights posting on private sites.

[MindandSoul]

27. I have the right to express my opinion any place I choose.

And they have the right to ban me. . .but they should at least have the decency to communicate their decision with me.

In addition, I believe it is important that the Fox News addicts realize that, if everyone posting in their forum agree with them, it is SOLELY because those who dissent are not allow to post their opinion anymore.

[NoPasaran]

31. Jeez, get a life

[MindandSoul]

41. This is part of my life if I chose it to be.

And, you were not forced to read my post, nor were you forced to post.. .correct?

So. . .good luck with YOUR life! LOL!

[inna]

48. rude and uncalled for; reflects poorly on you, not on the OP.

[RickFromMN]

34. If you want to argue with them, what about arguing with them on Twitter?

I would think twitter is more like an open forum.

Fox News is not an open forum.

Just don't say or do anything to violate the Twitter terms of service.

Personally, I doubt if you can change their minds anyway.
I find their opinions reprehensible and nonsensical and cruel and mean.
They are <...I better delete my own expletive...>.

I usually come across a few of them when I search twitter for something.
I block them, as a matter of course, to avoid them in the future.

I filter out any twitter with the tags, #tcot or #teaparty when I search.

Please tell me what other tags I should filter out...tears and laughter.

[MindandSoul]

42. That's a good suggestion. . .except that I do not twitter, and I am starting to

feel too old to learn!

But I'm sure I can live without it!
But thanks for your answer!

[slackmaster]

35. Drop it

Forget about it. Pursuing some kind of "way to go through" it would be a waste of time.

[MindandSoul]

43. I'm sure you are correct.

[superduperfarleft]

37. (1) The word is "censor" and (2) why do you care?

It's a private website, a CONSERVATIVE website, and they will "censor" you just like DU will "censor" conservatives.

[MindandSoul]

45. I agree with your first statement. I disagree with the second.

I do not post or read post to confirm my beliefs or because I enjoy the repetition of the same opinions over and over again.

I read post and post myself mostly to encourage communication and to discuss ideas or opinions with people who may broaden my way of thinking or may bring into light some issue or argument I haven't thought about.

I believe that it is a lot more useful (and more fun) to "cross polinate" than it is to acquiesce.

So. . . shoot me!

[saras]

49. umm...

Democratic Underground DOESN'T censor conservatives - the boards are full of them - half of this very thread is arguing the conservative, property-rights argument to this very issue.

DU does ban overt fascists, and trolls, but very little else. George Will or William Kristol wouldn't get banned here, because they can argue civilly, no matter how much you hate what they argue for. Someone like Rush Limbaugh, who thinks personal attacks ARE debate, would get banned for that reason, but a leftist who used the same style would also get banned, just about as fast.

[apocalypsehow]

52. Umm...George Will and William Kristol would get banned here in a New York second, and quite rightly.

"Democratic Underground DOESN'T censor conservatives - the boards are full of them"

Where? How about some evidence? :shrug: A link?

I won't be holding my breath...

"half of this very thread is arguing the conservative"

False. You are conflating a reasoned First amendment interpretation with a property-rights "argument," and then falsely implying that the latter is somehow a "conservative" position.

Wery, wery telling, way of doing business, that....

[MindandSoul]

54. What you are saying makes a lot of sense and I like to believe it.

[RKP5637]

38. Go through a proxy server so your IP is different. They are probably blocking your

IP from registering again once they kicked you off.

[MindandSoul]

46. Yes, that's what I thought. Thanks for your answer.

[pinboy3niner]

39. You must be absolutely DEVASTATED

Say 12 Our Fathers and 10 Hail Marys and pray for enlightenment to help you discover what is wrong with you.

When that doesn't work, You must conclude that some opinions are not welcome at the site of that propaganda organ. Delete them from your 'Favorites' and move on...

[bigwillq]

44. .....

:thumbsup:

[MindandSoul]

47. You are very funny. . .luckily, Fox News has NEVER been in "my favorites!"

[Anakin Skywalker]

50. Faux News readers/viewers are brainwashed beyond the point of no return!

[Blue-Jay]

51. Fox News officially reprimanded you?

That's pretty impressive.

—Can be confused:  1. blame, censure, condemn (see synonym and usage notes at blame); 2. censer, censor, censure, sensor.

[MindandSoul]

53. No, they didn't. They just blocked me from accessing their "opinion" site.