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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:21 PM
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They REALLY, REALLY Want These Tax Cuts... New Compromise With Sweeteners...
Tax Cut Bill: WH, Lawmakers Reach New Compromise
DAVID ESPO | AP/HuffPo
12/ 9/10 09:31 PM

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WASHINGTON — The White House and key lawmakers cleared the way Thursday night for swift Senate action to avert a Jan. 1 spike in income taxes for nearly all Americans, agreeing to extend breaks for ethanol and other forms of alternative energy as part of the deal.

Tax provisions aimed at increasing production of hybrid automobiles, biodiesel fuel, energy-efficient homes, coal and energy-efficient household appliances would be extended through the end of 2011 under the bill.

Debate on the expanded measure began almost immediately. While there is no precise timetable for passage, a test vote was set for Monday afternoon that appears likely to demonstrate overwhelmingly support for the legislation, which supporters say would help accelerate a sluggish recovery from recession.


The events unfolded as the White House predicted that the agreement between President Barack Obama and top Republicans would clear by year's end – even though House Democrats voted Thursday not to allow it to reach the floor without changes to scale back tax relief for the rich.

"If it's take it or leave it, we'll leave it," said Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas, after a closed-door meeting in which rank-and-file Democrats chanted, "Just say no."

"The deal will get passed," said presidential press secretary Robert Gibbs. There were no predictions to the contrary among senior Democrats on either side of the Capitol.

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Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/09/tax-cut-bill-white-house-passage_n_794798.html

Sounds like they ignored the House AGAIN!!!

Just say no... just say no... just say no !!!

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:24 PM
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1. agreeing to extend breaks for ethanol and .....
Oh good, keep the price of corn high as the poorer households get a small tax increase in this deal.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:33 PM
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12. Dont forget the Bush family is heavily invested in ethanol. I think it is Jeb
who controls the ethanol producers' association or one of the BUsh brothers.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:25 PM
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2. Just Say No!
K&R
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:26 PM
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3. if they don't get them it screws up their plans to declare the country Bankrupt & force
it into imf-type loan deals from which they also make money.

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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:29 PM
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4. exactly. n/t
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:29 PM
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5. So you think we are headed for an IMF intervention?
I do.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:32 PM
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8. no, i think financial interests are trying to rig the game to force the policies they want.
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Zoroastor Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:35 PM
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14. well, that's the goal of the global capitalists
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:30 PM
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6. Oops.
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 11:31 PM by dkf
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:33 PM
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11. Now, that is thinking.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:12 AM
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22. that is the gods honest truth.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:14 AM
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23. b i n g o and bingo is their name-o. nt
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:30 PM
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7. More giveaways. Maybe by Monday
they can squeeze out even more. I'm sure they can think of a few more over the weekend,they will be more relaxed.
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Zoroastor Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:32 PM
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9. As much as I'd hate to increase taxes on the working class...
... sticking to our guns now is the better move. Only 26% of Americans want the tax cuts extended to the wealthy anyway. http://cons-lie.com/2010/12/04/only-26-of-americans-want-tax-cuts-extended-for-wealthy-apparently-they-are-the-same-26-who-turned-out-to-vote-last-month/

Republicans would come off looking like the ones who denied the extension to the middle and working class. However, if we let this pass, and try to blame the subsequent deficit spike on republicans, too much time will have passed for most americans to make the connection in the face of right wing misinformation campaigns
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:34 PM
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13. The tax breaks we would get are so small. I would really rather see the money go to feeding
people and creating jobs.
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Zoroastor Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:36 PM
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16. agreed!
most of the people in the worst case scenario don't pay much, if any, income taxes anyway.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:43 PM
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19. You forget that Companies will then charge more and make the majority feel
like they are suffering even more. They will squeeze them even more to make them complain. It is a brutal game and most of the American people are the volleyball. Just to maintain this teeny little group of uber-wealthy.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:01 PM
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26. Are you saying that giving tax breaks to the wealthy will make companies charge less?
I dont think so.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:32 PM
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10. Cha-ching!
Everybody gets a pony...except the pony for the people who need it most will die in a year's time.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:35 PM
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15. They really want that tax break and they'll be willing to make actual concessions to get it.
If we just sit back with our arms crossed I think we'll get a really magical Christmas gift.

The sight of Republicans groveling . . . for once.
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Pholus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:41 PM
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17. You don't say. The pugs might give more? I thought the Prez barely eked out the last deal?
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 11:46 PM by Pholus
What about all the negotiation ju-jitsu and hyperdimensional chess calculations...

So, the House Dems appear to have done alright. If only the Prez takes notice on this.

Edit: Tried to make it more positive in general.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:42 PM
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18. We don't need no stinking ethanol.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:46 PM
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20. It's like crazy, dysfunctional parents...
...trying to bribe the scapegoat of the family with a few more trinkets--so the
favorite child (who is sociopathic and dysfunctional just like the parents) can have
a Mercedes and a condo in Bora Bora.

"Come now. We must let Biff drive a nice car. You know how he whines when he
doesn't get his way. Please darling. We'll throw in a $25 Target gift card
for you and a pack of peanuts. You love peanuts, don't you?"

Seriously.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:53 PM
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21. Reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode, It's a Good Life, about the demanding kid
He never stopped his demands.

Do as I say - or else.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:17 AM
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24. More of the DAMN SHAME. nt
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 06:40 AM
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25. Morning Kick...
:kick:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:03 PM
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27. Corn based ethanol is an experiment that failed decades ago
it is way past time to lay that one to rest


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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:06 PM
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28. The Senate is more powerful than the House.
So that makes sense.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 05:47 PM
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29. Afternoon Kick !!!
:kick:
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