Whatever happened to sending through the middle class tax cuts through first?

[Maraya1969]

Someone posted it here and then I heard it on the TV but now no more.

The idea was to put them through and make the Rethugs vote, "NO" so as to have it on record, (plus I would think that some of them would be swayed to vote "YES" so they don't seem like Scrooge), as to them saying "NO" to the middle class.

And then they were supposed to take it apart and have those Rethugs say "NO" to everything.

[phleshdef]

1. They tried it a week ago. It was voted down.

[ddeclue]

10. And Obama should have immediately boarded AF1 and flown to the hometowns of the no voters to LBJ

their asses - done interviews with local news teams, rallies, etc.

[phleshdef]

16. Yea, it would be just like that time John McCain halted his campaign to save the economy!

[ddeclue]

30. Umm NO .. it would be LBJ kicking ass and taking names.

[phleshdef]

32. LOL - hollywood style political stunts.

People don't want a President, they want an actor playing one on TV.

[B Calm]

35. Actually it passed with 53 votes. . .

[sinkingfeeling]

2. Failed last Saturday.

[TwilightGardener]

3. Four Senate Dems and all Repubs voted against it. And few here even know

it already happened, let alone the rest of America.

[DearAbby]

4. If I were Pelosi...

I would bring that same bill up every day, make the GOP vote it down EVERYDAY. Two times a day on Fridays. Then recess for the holidays. Let America chew on that for a few weeks, How the GOP Voted down tax cuts for the middle class those who need it, to hold out for the 2%.

[alcibiades_mystery]

8. The House already passed it

It was filibustered in the Senate.

[DearAbby]

20. Oh course Reid couldn't do anything like that either?

Bring the house vote up day after day?

[Recursion]

29. He can do it once every 48 hours

Once every 24 if he (or somebody he deputes) also votes against cloture with the GOP.

Since a political message board like this doesn't for the most part seem to remember that he did it in an extraordinary session on Saturday, it's pretty ridiculous to claim this would get noticed by the general public.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. Why Didn't I Think Of That?

Then at the end of the session The Tan Man can tell America that as soon as the new Congress is installed the Republicans will reduce taxes for everybody.

[bushisanidiot]

5. they did that. TWICE. as predicted, no repukes moved across the aisle.

and they won't budge, especially after dec. 31st.

getting them to agree to anything in our lame duck session will be a miracle.

[alcibiades_mystery]

6. Uh, that's exactly what they did

They put just the middle class tax cuts up to $250,000 up for a vote. It was filibustered.

Then they put Schumer's compromise measure of extending the tax cuts up to $1 million. It was filibustered.

This happened last Saturday.

Where you been?

[Maraya1969]

34. Having Salmonella thank you.

[dkf]

7. See how much attention it got. Yeah that will rouse the masses.

You are probably more up on it than the vast majority of the population and didn't hear a peep about it.

Such a devastating vote for the Republicans to make. Give me a break.

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. "If only we make them vote against it, they will fold!"

Where the fuck have these people been the last two years? We make them vote all the time. They vote NO and receive no negative consequences. Then people who claim to be well informed come on this board and say "Why don't we make them vote no!?!"

I mean, are these people kidding me?

[ddeclue]

13. Yeah because Obama won't hand out any negative consequences

he needs to start channeling LBJ for a change.

[Egnever]

15. what negative consequences did yoiu have in mind?

[ddeclue]

31. Going into their districts and doing news interviews with the 6 oclock news bashing them

getting op eds in their local paper.

Showing up with AF1 and holding rallies in their home town against them registering voters and cranking up a real opponent for them in 2012.

It's called being LBJ instead of Jimmy Carter.

[dkf]

33. Didn't we bash them on this before the elections?

Personally I was deluged with commercials before the elections.

It seems to have not made an impact.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. What Negative Consequences?

Maybe he could go to OH and KY and campaign against Boehner and McConnell.


That will teach em...

[Recursion]

27. What, should he send the Marines to the Senate chamber?

What exactly is he supposed to do to a Republican Senator?

[Egnever]

14. It is fairly shocking, here especially

This is far from the first issue this has happened with here though. Its been a constant stream of ignorance for months now.

I blame the media mostly as the narrative has been set since the election and most people don't have time to question the media.

Someone said if you repeat a lie often enough people will believe it...well here we are today. I think they were right.

[dgibby]

22. Dems suck at message control. n/t

[cottonseed]

12. No one cares.

Except those looking for another reason that Obama has "let them down".

[izzybeans]

17. Is this where I insert the :facepalm: thingy

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. +1

.

[Egnever]

19. It was sent through!

it was voted down in the senate. As has damn near every other peice of progressive legislation.

I swear people are screaming Obama is a sell out over and over without a clue of what he has done or what the senate has done to block him.

Its sad but understandable considering the state of our media.

[stray cat]

21. The senate voted it down -

[NYCGirl]

24. Twice, I believe. NT

[Recursion]

28. Roll call #'s 538 and 539

Saturday, December 4th. Less than a week ago. And half of DU doesn't seem to remember.

[Occam Bandage]

25. They tried. The Republicans blocked it.

This could be easily answered with a quick google search.

[Recursion]

26. It failed, on Saturday

Senate Roll Call votes #s 538 and 539