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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:01 PM
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A different kind of battle for Wikileaks on the horizon, rival site to open soon
Wikileaks soon won't be the only secret-spilling game in town.

A former co-worker of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange plans to launch a rival website Monday called Openleaks that will help anonymous sources deliver sensitive material to public attention.

In a documentary by Swedish broadcaster SVT, due to be aired Sunday and obtained in advance by The Associated Press, former WikiLeaks spokesman Daniel Domscheit-Berg said the new website will work as an outlet for anonymous sources.

"Openleaks is a technology project that is aiming to be a service provider for third parties that want to be able to accept material from anonymous sources," Domscheit-Berg said rare interviews conducted in Berlin.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101210/ap_on_hi_te/eu_wikileaks_rivals
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:05 PM
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1. This is a good thing. the more the merrier.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:14 PM
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2. As long as the lame$tream press refuses to do its job...
..these orgs will thrive. This is what I expected after Wikileaks. 'Cause the toothpaste ain't gonna get put back in that tube now!
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:20 PM
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3. "A less political site" he says. Now is he scared? Is he jealous? Or is it in the plans?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:25 PM
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4. Catherina was posting some interesting bits about this gent in this thread:
Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 12:25 PM by EFerrari
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:41 PM
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5. This stinks of CIA. This Daniel Domscheit-Berg was suspended by Assange
Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 12:41 PM by Catherina
he's a real snake in the grass. Assange suspended him while investigating a serious security breach where this snake refused to answer questions and then started smearing Assange. CIA bullshit all the way. I won't be placing any trust in or even opening Openleaks stuff.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:45 PM
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6. Good catch! Thanks. n/t
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:47 PM
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7. Interesting
It would obviously be good if Wikileaks did have some kind of competition, but it needs to come from more places.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 04:48 PM
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14. He many have been prompted into CIA employment to save his ass.
Or so they say.
My concern would be anyone who leaks to his organization the info might go to the CIA instead of to the public.
Something is fishy to be sure.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 10:45 PM
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16. no kidding? Wow...
and I was guessing this was a spoof. more like a spook in a way
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:05 PM
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8. I don't get that Assange cares about competition. The whole idea of Wikileaks is
that there can be actual transparency, illumination of the deceptions, for the benefit of humanity. So as another poster wrote, the more the merrier.

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:13 PM
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9. This isn't competition. This is counterops set up by the government
Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 01:14 PM by Catherina
All you have to do is look at which news outlets put this story out. Right wing ones that carry the government's line.
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:41 PM
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12. Imitation
is the sincerest form of flattery.

The opportunities for deception in this industry though, seem rampant. When the truth itself has been made questionable by a media permitted to lie and misinform, and when the audience is divided by media misinformation and pre-tuned to hear what it wants to hear, they are primed for psy-ops.

Can the truth bust through this hypnotic drone of endless war footing and the secrecy and deception that enables it?
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 10:46 PM
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17. I believe it's like the sunrise. Once it starts, it's unstoppable. Dark things and thugs
are illuminated.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 10:44 PM
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15. wow, fascinating. I confess it didn't occur to me.
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FamousBlueRaincoat Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:14 PM
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10. Wikileaks means nothing
The idea of wikileaks means everything.

If the "rival" is actually honest, and not some sort of cointelpro operation, than it's not a rival at all. It's the goal.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 10:52 PM
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18. Exactly. The word "competition" immediately made me suspicious
because WikiLeaks is fundamentally about fostering solidarity in our struggle to expose the Beast.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:24 PM
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11. Here's an interesting quote from Hemu Nigam, former Justice Dept. prosecutor
""The government would be wise not to focus on the technical, and instead concentrate on finding and talking with people who were around Assange in the last few years, the people who he trusts," Nigam said.

Technology won't turn on a friend, he said, but people will."

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/12/08/wikileaks.poison.pill/

As near as I can tell he now owns this company:
http://sspblue.com/

It's difficult to say if he is speaking with any authority or inside information, but given that he's been in a similar position, he's probably not far off in characterizing how they think.

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 04:30 PM
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13. Good find! Bookmarked n/t
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