Obama and Big Dog on MSNBC now!

[jannyk]

[jannyk]

1. Obama has left Bill to 'speak' alone.

[saigon68]

49. Well at Least the WAR is going Swimmingly well

[Donnachaidh]

2. yeah, he's got to back up the welfare for the Waltons Tax Deal

That keeps the doors open to all those country clubs for him. :sarcasm:

[Gin]

4. I think this is embarrassing for the dems

[hlthe2b]

14. ditto.. I also think it makes Obama look devastatingly weak...

It is one thing that they met-- no problem. I think even if Clinton had released a supportive statement a bit later, it would have been ok. Now, it is as though Obama had to call in the cavalry (or his Dad) to help him out.

I fear a major backlash from this.

[gateley]

23. Yeah - Gotta agree. It must gall him (Obama) to do this- so it must mean

he's REALLY feeling the heat?

[femrap]

40. I could just puke......

Clinton, who got rid of Glass-Stegall, has the gall to come out and say 'This is a good deal.'

I'm sick of it.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

83. Thank you!!!!

Hillary would have sucked, too.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

16. And for Obama, too.

[Donnachaidh]

21. yup -- Obama wanted a big dog but he stepped in it on this one

literally -- the smell is getting wider.

[gateley]

3. I'm late -- Clinton is talking now. Did Obama speak first? Clinton's trying to

sell Obama's "framework" -- if Obama spoke, is that what he was addressing as well?

Thanks!

[Gin]

7. yes...he introduced him and now Bill is going for it for him

[jannyk]

11. Caught MSNBC by surprise - they cut to it as he introduced BC

and then he stepped aside and let Bill have the floor.

[reformist2]

35. Sad. Grim. Pathetic.

[DesertRat]

5. And on CNN too. nt

[Poboy]

6. The corporate mouthpieces are trying to drown out Bernie.

[Vinnie From Indy]

8. +1

yep!

[gateley]

19. +2 - but I don't know if all but the staunched political wonks are watching Bernie -

like us!

[eleny]

26. I am

Bernie's speaking on the floor of the Senate today is historic.

[gateley]

32. Me, too - many of us, but outside of us... ??

[femrap]

44. +100

I'm still listening to Bernie. Clinton loves rich folks.

[Poboy]

93. The evening news used this event to run and completely omit anything Bernie said today.

[lob1]

9. The old triangulater defending the new triangulater.

Puppet theater.

[xultar]

15. The new triangulated called the old triangulator in. I think that is KEY.

[gateley]

27. I heard this was a previously scheduled meeting. Even if that's accurate, I bet

this has been THE topic of conversation (obviously).

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Not watching right now but it does tell me that

we have hit a crisis point kiddies.

By the way KEEP CALLING your senators

[xultar]

12. I wonder if bill wanted to come after the WH put out the story that the clintons took over

After the 11/2 elections.

[fascisthunter]

13. lol.... goofey

boy are politicians disconnected from the people they claim to know so well.

[Gin]

22. what is he gonna say? no I dont like this bill with the pres. next to him?

this is pathetic and Obama should be embarrassed.

[gateley]

51. I think that whenever they talk about people worrying about their childrens'

college education. I think for too many that's not even on their radar anymore. Food and shelter and gas money are.

[Rageneau]

17. Obama is hoping that Clinton will save him.

Too bad we didn't start off with a Clinton when we had he chance, IMHO.

[jannyk]

18. Now stating the importance of START Treaty - essential.

[jannyk]

24. It's weird! BO just standing next to Bill with a sillly grin on his face.

It's like he brought his big brother to school to take on the bully.

[eleny]

34. _

[Tatiana]

72. I know! n/t

[gateley]

PERFECT analogy! nt

[NotThisTime]

20. Honestly this is outrageous.... Bill trying to sell us on this crap? At least be honest about it, we

get some of the stuff that helps the country while the Repukes get shit that hurts the Country equally... Nice way to work guys...

[Skidmore]

28. What a bunch of hooey.

I can honestly see Bill Clinton coming up with something like this on his own.

[bushisanidiot]

25. I'm with you, Mr. President!

lets get this done before the end of the year. save the lower and middle class cuts, and take the repukes' favorite boogeyman out of the 2012 election.

[Still a Democrat]

47. Actually, the two year deal makes it a big 2012 campaign issue

in our favor, IMO.

[SnoopDog]

29. Is this the same Bill Clinton that brought us ...

Nafta

Repeal of Glass-Steagal

Telecommunications act


Notice how these programs led to the decimation of our country...

[jannyk]

30. Now BO has left the room! Big Dog continues presser.

[gateley]

36. I bet Obama went offstage and threw up. This has got to be so humiliating for him!

[Hannah Bell]

31. clinton's statement is getting more coverage than the filibuster.

fuck clinton.

[NRaleighLiberal]

33. Incredibly ironic to have the Sanders filibuster and this on at the same time.

Something symbolic there, one wonders?

By the way - the filibuster is remarkable - kind of like watching Mr Smith Goes to Washington, but a real life situation. Must see TV.

[mimitabby]

37. pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

[Gin]

39. who advises the president? did they think this makes him look

smart and strong?

[gateley]

41. That's where I was until I saw this post and changed channels - THIS is remarkable, too!

I'm :wow: - Never seen anything like this. It's almost upsetting to me.

[NRaleighLiberal]

43. we do live in interesting times, hey?

:hi:

[Tatiana]

38. This is bizarre... did Obama think this would make him look better?

If we'd wanted a Clinton we would have voted one in!!!! We voted for the non-Clinton!

This is sad. So what, you want Clinton to clean up the political mess you made?

What a joke. This is an embarrassment. I wonder what Clinton is getting in return?

[RandomKoolzip]

45. THinking the exact same thing.

Who the hell is advising Obama these days?! These are not the decisions or actions of the guy who campaigned so brilliantly in 2008.

The guy WALKS off the stage at a press conference defending HIS decisions. That doesn't look good.

Especially compared to Bernie Sanders, Obama is clearly losing the image and message battles. Ugh.

[PassingFair]

88. He's losing the message battles because he's on the WRONG side.

The DLC is pulling the strings VISIBLY now.

This is puke-worthy!

[Poboy]

68. "We voted for the non-Clinton!" Well, we THOUGHT we voted for the

non-Clinton. What a pathetic spectical.


Dick Cheney had to go shaperone Bush to testify after they did 9/11.
Same reaction here.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

42. Obama has rendered himself irrelevant.

He's surrounded by Clinton advisors and now Clinton has to stand up there and speak for him.

We are witnessing a presidency crashing and burning,

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. That is exactly what we are watching

we are watching something else... the order in DC has changed, this is a tipping point...

The next few days will be amazing.

What is true is we may lose this battle, but the war just started.

[Gin]

52. dear god..he has to defend Obama...never saw anything like this

[nadinbrzezinski]

55. Nope in the history of the Presidency we have

never sen a former POTUS do this.

Mark your calendars.

Granted Clinton IS a politician, the most talented one of this generation. Obama is not.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

53. We need to seriously consider the International

repercussions of this. Be sure the world is watching.

[nadinbrzezinski]

59. I think the empire is going to take a few serious knocks

I was expecting this in the Spring. The trends just amazingly accelerated.

Oh and goes without saying... the Constitutional Crisis is now rank and open.

[chimpymustgo]

74. Nad, help me out - just what do you think is going on here?

[nadinbrzezinski]

84. The POTUS has little power any more

there is a saying in the military, applies to any miltary. It does not matter how many stars you have on your shoulders, if you go FOLLOW ME MEN! in a charge, and they stand behind cover... you deserve to die.

Well he issued the FOLLOW ME MEN!, they turned and mooned him.

You have as much power as others are willing to give you. This is a crisis of government and command. It is also a crisis since a MINORITY is able to keep the country hostage. Bid dawg is right on this... the best deal the dems could get... the Rs are holding the country hostage. Why we have a crisis in DC.

[chimpymustgo]

91. Thanks for your take on things. We do live in interesting times...

[sufrommich]

50. A scary thought. A President in over his head? nt

[ProSense]

48. Come on

At least Bill Clinton has a spine, and remember that story about the Republicans shutting down the government? Clinton is showing how you respond. This could work.

:)

[RandomKoolzip]

57. You and my cat have a lot in common. Every time I go near the kitchen he thinks

I'm gonna feed him. The eternal optimist, in the face of nothing but evidence to the contrary.

[ProSense]

64. Wait

you don't feed your cat? That's horrible.

:rofl:

[RandomKoolzip]

69. He's an adult, he can find a job.

Oh wait....

[jannyk]

67. Totally agree Big Dog has a spine - so does his wife and we could

have had them both in the WH with all their experience and cojones. Unfortunately, we picked Obama.

[ProSense]

70. I'm still thrilled with my choice.

Obama: Bush Tax Cuts For The Rich Won’t Create ‘One Single Job’

[jannyk]

54. Can you imagine the 'phone call? "Hi Bill, are you busy this afternoon?

..I need you to sell my tax bill for me - they won't listen to me"

WTF!!!

[Gin]

58. I want to see bernie...not bill

[saigon68]

56. Amazing how many here Love WELFARE FOR THE RICH

[WinkyDink]

77. Not I, said the little red hen. NOT I.

[saigon68]

94. Good for You !!!!

[apocalypsehow]

60. Haaaahaaa! Yesterday it was "Clinton stood tall against the Republicans in '95" Today it's:

"He's a corporate sell-out just like Obama!!!!!11"

Priceless stuff.

[spanone]

61. so republicans are right? can't raise taxes on the rich?

[Gin]

63. he is having a friggin press conference... jesus

[spanone]

65. no shit. he's promoting the bill which i don't approve of....sorry if i offended you

[laundry_queen]

62. All of what you guys have said aside

(regarding Obama looking weak, how embarrassing etc, all of which I agree with)
One thing that REALLY struck me was how much better Bill seems to understand the intricacies of the economy. He makes Obama seem WAY out of his league. Which is why it is especially puzzling the Obama handlers would do this. I am so puzzled. ????

[jannyk]

78. totally agree!!! n/t

[WinkyDink]

79. Clinton is brilliant; Obama, bright. A world of difference.

[Tatiana]

85. I will agree with this. Bill knows his economics and speaks with authority on the issue.

Perhaps the Obama administration thought that because Bill is so knowledgeable and trusted on economic matters, the American people would do an about-face and trust him when he said the Obama-McConnell tax plan was the thing to do.

:shrug:

[DURHAM D]

66. This is amazing.

President Clinton is Presidentin'.

The sign behind him says:

The White House
Washington



He is talking about Haiti now.

It was a total mistake on Obama's part to showcase this/him.

He just got a question about "triangulation".

[Gin]

71. he was part of the reason for the collapse....go away Bill

[DURHAM D]

73. no he wasn't end

[WinkyDink]

75. There is no love lost between those two men.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

76. I'm sticking with Laurel & Hardy...the acting is better.

[Gin]

80. today he uses the bully pulpit to drown out Bernie Sanders

[WinkyDink]

82. So, now that Clinton found it for him, one wonders how next Obama will use it.

[WinkyDink]

81. And the humor is intentional.

[Cleita]

86. Two brilliant and gifted speakers

who turn out to be master bull shiters on one stage. I'm beyond swallowing the BS whole right now. :eyes:

[golddigger]

87. Wow, did we just go back in time? I'm hearing the

Twilight Zone theme in the background. Or did Obama just hand the presidency back to Clinton?

I just lost all respect. I don't trust myself to say anything more.

[jannyk]

89. Tune in next week when 'W' will pimp the ongoing wars for BO. n/t

[NuttyFluffers]

90. imagine if they combined their forces for the sake of good!

oh wait, that's what they think they are doing already...

:shrug: oh well, path to hell and good intentions and all that.

however, what's this warm breeze on my behind? why surely they couldn't think we are so gullible...?
:puffpiece:

[Individualist]

92. spewing DLC bullshit.

:puke: