Don't get mad @ Bubba y'all. Obama left him up there. If y'all are mad y'all need

[xultar]

To point that stick back @Obama.

Obama called him there and Bubba came at the President's request.

So get off that train it ain't goin nowhere.

Oh and for y'all who said that the Clintons will take over, they both have done everything asked of them and stayed hidden when asked.

They have sold Obmas policies and agendas like good soldiers. They deserve respect for being team players.

[tosh]

1. K & INVISIBLE R!

[DURHAM D]

2. Just now as Clinton was leaving the podium a reporter asked him

something like this - "What time is your presser on Monday?" Everyone laughed.

[xultar]

52. Aww The Big Dawg still has the razzle and dazzle that shit ain't rusty.

[BrklynLiberal]

3. It is an indication of just how desperate Obama is that he felt he had to call on

Clinton to pimp for him..

Not angry at Clinton...he was just doing what he felt he had to do...
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My rec is also invisible..

[Catherina]

11. +1 n/t

[Bucky]

33. "Pimp"? Really? A partisan show of solidarity is "pimping"?

Is Obama have a bad month? Sure. Is it a smart move to tap into the Clinton mojo at a time like this? Damn smart and arguably overdue. If any of this looks like pimping to you, you're a maroon.

[gateley]

4. I agree. And I've never been a Clinton fan - but he carried the water on this one.

Hats off to him -- even though I disagree.

[xultar]

9. Me too. After what Obama let his supporters call both him and Hillary racist, Bill

Is being a team player. Obama owes Bubba big time.

[phleshdef]

26. Obama LET his supporters do what?

Bill Clinton is the one that made the Jesse Jackson comparison. Obama didn't need to say a word for that to light some sparks. I don't think Bill is by any means racist myself. But you can't just make shit up like that.

[xultar]

30. Oh yes you can make that shit up. The Clintons are not racist and Clyburn

saying that shit is EFFED UP. Obama should have told him to shut his pie hole.

BTW just comparing one black person to another isn't a racist thing. And if you think so, then you're racist.

[phleshdef]

36. Clyburn can say whatever the fuck he feels. Its none of Obama's business.

Learn to fucking read. I didn't say I thought Bill Clinton was a racist. But when you compare the black candidate to the last black candidate, especially one as polarizing on racial issues as Jackson is perceived as for some people, you are an idiot if you don't see the race card accusations coming. If you do something that politically dumb, you kind of deserve what you get.

Blaming that on Obama is desperate and meritless. And its also water under the bridge. Apparently Bill Clinton is mature enough to realize that, unlike yourself.

[xultar]

45. IF you are on the team you have to be on message. That is why Obama won. REMEMBER!

HE was good with his messages.
That is why Clyburn got away with it, because it got the white liberals all mad and frothy against the Clinton's.

It worked. Now Obama is president. WE got this great tax deal. No PO and a surge in Afghanistan, and Gitmo is keeping people employed.

[phleshdef]

50. Clyburn got away with it because it genuinely pissed him off.

You are acting like he was the only black American that got offended by the comments and that is far from the case.

[xultar]

53. Well I'm black. I live in the black communtiy. We were lauging! Clyburn

may have not been the only one but Black folk I know didn't appreciate it.

The Clinton's were good to the African American community and we remember that. That is why Clinton is effective on the campaign trail for Obama.

[xultar]

47. Oh and I know you didn't say the Clintons were racist. I wasn't even responding as if you did.

Just making conversation.

having fun.

posting on DU.

[Horse with no Name]

5. I went to a political rally for Hillary that Bill did

it was great. Bill was very positive about Hillary..NEVER said an ugly word about Obama.
Obama handlers fed reports that Bill was ugly and demeaning but I was there and it NEVER happened.
If I were Bill (or Hillary), after crap like that I wouldn't carry Obama's water for all the rice in China.

[xultar]

I'm with you.

[Catherina]

17. So true. The race baiting and ugliness didn't come from the Clintons. n/t

[merci_me]

23. Same here.......................

I attended two Hillary rallies, where Bill was the speaker and he was totally focused on Hillary. Bill never spoke negatively nor even mentioned Obama.

[AndrewP]

41. Agreed 1000%

[HuckleB]

6. Did Obama make Clinton read from a WH prepared script?

:shrug:

What Bill is offering is what Bill has always offered. Why is that shocking?

[xultar]

27. The shocking part is Obama leaving him up there. Knowing that Michelle

and others felt that the Clintons would take over.

When they did not. The Clinton's have been good Soldiers for Obama.

[Hannah Bell]

40. hell if they have. if clinton was a good soldier, he would have suggested

that a press conference where it would appear he had to step in & hold obama's hand wasn't the best setting in which to express his support.

[Hannah Bell]

38. more likely clinton dictated terms.

[FrenchieCat]

7. This meeting was arranged in early November.....

what with this blame game about every fucking thing?
And if we have to do that.....I know!

LET'S BLAME REPUBLICANS!

(novel idea, hey?)

[OregonBlue]

19. Agreed. I love that he's using Clinton and that they are all on the same team. Obama and Clinton

are not the problem, REPUBLICONS ARE!!!!!

[gateley]

25. I'd heard that, too, but then Clinton said Obama asked him to come to discuss

this. But with the backlash Obama's getting on this, even if it was scheduled for another reason, I'm sure this took precedence. Obviously. :7

[TwilightGardener]

8. Who's mad? I think it's nice.

[Catherina]

10. Rec'd. Not too keen on your very last sentence for some reason but rec'd. n/t

[Angry Dragon]

12. Obama came out with a shitty deal

He asked clinton to help him push it

Either clinton is lying that he likes it
or he is saying it is a good plan

Either way he is wrong......what am I missing??

[TwilightGardener]

13. Maybe he thinks it's the best we're going to get right now?

[Angry Dragon]

21. That may be

but it still is a big piece of garbage
more so because he went behind closed doors

[xultar]

34. I think the main issue is that Obama should have not let HCR go that long. That took

time away in 2k9 for dealing with this shit.

Obama runs the WH and the Party and he had the WH, and the House & Senate and fucked up.

SIMPLE.

[Catherina]

20. Well this is NAFTA best Republican President we ever had Clinton n/t

[11 Bravo]

35. Damn, whose opinion to give more weight to?

A former President of the United States, and one of the greatest politicians of his generation, or an anonymous internet nobody?
Hmmm, I'll have to think about that.

[Angry Dragon]

56. Don't hurt yourself

[WinkyDink]

14. But ought not the "team" be the American citizenry? Ought not the playbook be how best to SERVE US?

[xultar]

29. I'm not discussing that. You are making this thread bigger than it is.

[Hannah Bell]

15. Yes, I *can* point that stick at clinton. Team players my ass.

[xchrom]

16. Clinton is in part sticking up for his own right drift in Democratic politics.

He has to stick up for the guy who keeps that up.

[somone]

18. It is Obama's plan

[xultar]

24. 3D chess and all that magical unicornian shit.

[sufrommich]

22. Agreed. Bill Clinton isn't the President. Although I get the feeling

Obama wishes Bubba was. :yoiks:

[xultar]

32. I think Obama wishes anyone was president but him right now. I feel bad for the guy

[sufrommich]

37. While I feel bad for him too, I also feel scared that he seems

unable to handle being President.I am more and more convinced that he should have stayed a senator for at least one whole term.

[xultar]

42. Yes, I think that would have been best myself. Washington requires a tough

hand, I think he had lofty goals but he hadn't been there and I think it messed with him.

I just cant figure out why he didn't recalibrate after the HCR instead he's waiting till now to get tough, and it is against his own party.

Fuck Grassley said that Obama was trying to kill grandmothers.

WTF didn't he yell @ Grassley back in the fucking day.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

28. Obamas been surrounded by ex-Clinton advisors for two years

We should have just voted for Hillary in the first place.

[xultar]

31. Right Obama is being held hostage by the Clinton's. Obama isn't man enough

or strong enough to make his own decisions when they are wrong it is the DLC and the Clinton's fault

But when Obama has good ideas it is Obama's idea alone.

Riiiiight.

[Tatiana]

39. Oh I'm not mad at Bubba at all. He was doing his thing.

And all without smirking or giving off the "see I KNEW y'all was gonna need me" vibe.

[xultar]

49. Fucking A! LOL + a million brazillion trillion million trillion billion gazillions!

[MellowDem]

43. They deserve shit for being good soldiers...

The Clintons are still part of the problem as Obama is now as well.

[xultar]

48. ROFL. Wow you've got the spirit.

[MellowDem]

51. I sure do. Too bad our leaders don't. They lay down.

[David Zephyr]

44. While I'm not thrilled with the truth, I must recommend your OP for the truth it tells.

K&R.

[xultar]

46. Must be why folk hate me. I don't agree with Bill waisting his big guns

on this mess but he's helping out a bruva. He had to do it.

[hfojvt]

54. I usually don't give much credit

to people who are playing for the other team.

[blindpig]

55. Yeah, the ruling class team. n/t