Yes I'll be voting for Obama in 2012.

[cali]

Am I disgusted with this tax deal? Beyond disgusted. Unhappy about other policy decisions? Yep. Do I enjoy holding my nose while voting? No.

But here's the thing: He'll be the only viable choice I have. And the Supreme Court and other issues where he's better than any repub are too important to me to not vote or vote for a third party candidate.

[valerief]

1. What if there's someone better? nt

[stray cat]

5. Better is worthless if they can't win a national election

[elocs]

23. Which rules out Kucinich, Sanders, Feingold. That's reality and DU tends not to like reality.

The thought is that if somebody is an outstandingly great candidate then obviously all of America will rush to vote for them.

[nashville_brook]

30. actually, Obama was considered a not-serious "DU fantasy" candidate

before the primaries, very few people thought he had a chance. surely you remember that.

[cali]

41. that's not quite true.

yes, he ran earlier than expected, but he was considered a serious candidate.

[elocs]

42. Right. After watching his convention speech in '04 I thought he would be a contender.

He had an ability to inspire the masses and a charisma that any fantasy candidates lack today. I wouldn't put him in the same class as any of them. Besides, as a socialist Sanders would not have a snowball's chance in hell of ever being elected if he somehow got the nomination, which he will not.

[cali]

6. there won't be anyone better. Unless he doesn't run, it'll be Obama

v Pence or Palin or Romney or some other repuke.

[MineralMan]

8. Who? Unless you can name someone, it's moot.

I asked that question earlier this week, and just got yelled at. Nobody seems able to name anyone who has any possibility of winning even the nomination. Can you?

[Capn Sunshine]

17. Howard Pelosi Feingold Nader!

who else!!

[nashville_brook]

27. your question is moot until the future materializes. hang tight.

[Sherman A1]

2. I cannot say what will be going on in 2012, but

if the election was held today....


I would simply stay home.

[Capn Sunshine]

18. (scratching Sherman A1's name off call list)

there, that saves us both some time

[Sherman A1]

35. Yes, it does

I put away my campaign collectables and presidential portrait yesterday. I had both hanging on the wall above my computer as I had such hope for this guy.

I no longer have that hope for him or for the working class.

[MineralMan]

3. I'll be doing the same. Thanks!

[gateley]

4. Me, too. Although sometimes I wonder -- he's had such a LOT of crap to

deal with - more than many presidents -- I wonder if he'll say fuck it, here are the keys. I'd sure be tempted if I were he.

[Raschel]

9. Me too.

[TNLib]

7. I'll probably vote for him too

I won't hold my nose. I'll proudly cast a vote for him if I believe he's the best candidate on the ballot and most likely that will be the case.

[WillyT]

10. Well... We'll See...

He might have to earn it.

:shrug:

[blondeatlast]

11. Pains me much to say so, but so will I. there's no viable alternative. nt

[Kennah]

12. Likely me too

If Obama decides not to run, for whatever reason, obviously it would be pointless to write in Barack Obama.

If there is a primary challenge, perhaps I'll vote for someone else in the primary.

However, in the general, absolutely I will be voting for Barack Obama.

[xchrom]

13. Then neo-liberalism wins

Which is to say Reagan Thatcher wins.

Those are our choices.

[Capn Sunshine]

19. wait, is this a Black-white thing?

Reagan Thatcher?
Seriously?
:rofl:

[bluestate10]

28. When the other choice is neanderthal-conservative?

I will take neo-liberalism, thank you.

[FormerDittoHead]

14. Don't forget to donate money! /sarcasm

I'll certainly vote for Obama - because there is no chance 1) he'd lose to a primary contender or 2) the Republicans could come with someone who wasn't totally repugnant.

I *know* the futility of trying to "send a message" by voting 3rd party (or not voting) - it will result in Republicans winning, and even if it's by a single vote, they'll have a "mandate" to double military spending, eliminate taxes on the wealthy and declare war on Iran...

So, I'll be voting for Obama... just... don't ask me for ONE FUCKING DIME!

You have my vote - THAT'S IT.

[Capn Sunshine]

20. there's plenty of hands full of money being extended

so , if you don't give, it will be gotten elsewhere. You might not like the source though, huh?

[nashville_brook]

25. well there's a bright side! not having to send him money since he's got plenty from the rich

*sigh*

no one gets my promise of a vote until i can trust them. period. sorry. can't do it. won't do it. if he turns into Mr. Trustworthy again, i'll consider it. but my vote is NEVER given a priori.

[dhill926]

15. I'll vote for him......

and I'll send money. Yes I'm disappointed at times, but the alternative (republican) is too horrible to contemplate.

[demosincebirth]

16. Never voted for a republican in my life...2012 will be no different.

[Better Believe It]

21. "Do I enjoy holding my nose while voting? No." Are you saying that Obama stinks as a candidate?

:)

[Iggo]

22. Me, too...

...assuming he's the Dem nominee in the general election.

[bluestate10]

24. Second. The question is do we want something, or nothing.

With 2-3 Supreme Court chairs opening up during the next six years and the republican party lurching ever more rightward, can democrats REALLY afford to teach Obama a lesson? Well, maybe those that enjoy protesting in streets, chaining themselves to fences and getting hauled off to jail. Folks, if we screw up the 2012 vote, we are in for some unbelievably dark years.

[KansasVoter]

26. I am not happy either, but unless a great dem wins the nomination, we are stuck with Obama

[bluestate10]

29. Yep. nt.

[Wind Dancer]

31. OK!!!

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[yourout]

33. In the primary....no. In the General....yes.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

34. so will i. though its never really me, or people like me that we have to worry about

its people who couldn't be bothered to vote unless they feel a compelling reason to, that's who obama will lose. not me.

[Imagevision]

36. Obama has to win the support of his own party first is the way it works...?

[Warren DeMontague]

37. I find it interesting that, after the Public Option, DADT, Gitmo, DEA raids on cancer grannies

this is the thing that makes everyone- including the house democratic caucus- come completely unglued.

I think it's trading a somewhat shitty deal for some clearly necessary stuff, like an extension of unemployment. It's not great, but it's not the worst thing he's done.

[Marr]

38. No reason to worry. I'm told a minority party can block the opposition from doing anything anyway.

I mean, I figure all we really need is enough Democrats in the Senate to threaten a fillibuster, and it wouldn't matter if you had Sarah Palin and Adolph Hitler in the White House. Right?

[laughingliberal]

39. +1

[Catherina]

40. More power to you. I won't n/t

[inna]

43. I doubt he'll be running.

[mmonk]

44. If another Democrat runs, I may have to give that one some consideration.

The ideals I have fought for so many years are not apparent in the current administration. I know there will be a lot of pressure and anger directed at any Democrat that does not tow the line and scorn for any Democrat that throws her or his hat into the race. However, if progressive ideas are to survive all this, those ideas need to be expressed in some manner. I see few pathways currently.

[sufrommich]

45. So will I ,although it will contain none of the excitement I held for

my vote in 2008. And assuming he can fend off any serious primary challenger.