Bill Clinton wasn't trotted out....

[SHRED]

...out during the health insurance fiasco to speak on behalf of single-payer or at the very least a public option?
OH HELL NO...instead Obama trots him out to back up his deal with the GOP.

I guess it makes sense considering NAFTA, GATT, and the Financial Services Modernization Act signings.

The DLC Blue Dogs are running the show.
The wealthy few have all the "seats at the table", and the rest of us can go to hell.



:nuke:

[Poll_Blind]

1. There is at least a little hope yet, check out this video on DU from today with Peter DeFazio:

HERE. Thank God he won against that nutcase Art Robinson...

PB

[SHRED]

3. thanks for that link

[slipslidingaway]

2. knr n/t

[somone]

4. Good point

Money talks - especially Wall Street money

[Faryn Balyncd]

5. We are being played for fools.

k and r

[glitch]

8. It works with 30% who shout down the remaining 70%.

I don't think it's working anymore.

[walldude]

16. You know what really pisses me off...

Not that I'm being played, that is what politicians do... what pisses me off is that they get mad when I notice. I don't need a lecture from some half assed politician about how I am too stupid to see what they are doing.

I SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[leftstreet]

6. K&R

[Raine]

7. EXACTLY on point

of all the gall, this makes me madder than ever!!!!! :mad:

[amborin]

9. K&R

[Poboy]

10. Great point!

[Enthusiast]

11. K&R

Obama was going to 'revisit' NAFTA. Instead he is now pushing new "free trade" deals. Unbelievable.

[Uncle Joe]

12. He was trotted out now as counter to Senator Sanders' filibuster, it allowed the corporate media to

use up precious prime-time air time to focus on something else, than the filibuster.

Thanks for the thread, Shred.

[Poboy]

15. This is exactly what I think as well. Drown out Bernie with

this propaganda/ media push. The event turned to spectacle though when Obama surrendered the event to the master spinmeister himself.

[notesdev]

24. The symbolism was shocking

it was if Obama was abdicating his own job in favor of someone he thought could get the job done better.

[howmad1]

33. Just imagine:

If Bill clinton kept his pecker in his pants, how different this country would be today. Al Gore would have won the election hands dowm, the chimp would have been an asterisk in the history books, no rethuglican party for years, no 911, no wars, etc., etc., etc.
What a colossal putz Clinton was.

[leeroysphitz]

38. Is there anything his penis CAN'T do? n/t

[democracy1st]

13. true

[bvar22]

14. And as John Edwards warned:

"If you give them a seat at the table,
they will eat ALL the food!"



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans."
---Paul Wellstone



"By their works you will know them."

[hfojvt]

17. uhm, the primary opposition to the public option was Republicans

you cannot use Clinton to convince Republicans of anything. Now, since the primary opposition is Democrats, perhaps the Big Dope can sway some people.

[demwing]

29. really? I thought Obama "knew he didn't have 60 votes in the Senate", right??

So, there MUST have been some Democratic opposition in the Senate, for which he could have brought out the Big Dog.

Nope.

The REAL opposition to the Public Option was Obama himself.

[1badjedi]

18. Why would they have done that?

The PO wasn't that important, remember? Certainly not as important as tax cuts for the rich. :sarcasm:

[chill_wind]

19. Bizarre the way he didn't stick around, either and just left him there presiding in his place.

:spray:

[madmax]

21. Really, that was the weirdest thing for me

too. Like :wtf: You're leaving the Big Dog who just luvvvvs the lime light in the Press Room of the White House to hold court. :crazy:

I've never seen a Prez do it with a VP.

[Dokkie]

27. that wasnt the weirdest part

How about the way Obama was staring at him while he made his pitch. It was much better when he left him alone

[tblue37]

20. Bill Clinton is bestest buddies with the Bushes. I think he is more on their side these days than ou

[MrMickeysMom]

22. Well, I certainly feel we're being shown the way...

I guess it takes longer for some of us to feel the effects of making half of what we used to for a living and pay more than what we can afford.

[lunatica]

25. Yeah, for those of us lucky to have jobs our salaries are frozen while

all our living expenses go up and up. That's why so many of us overused credit cards.

Cripes this is a doozy of a hangover! We can now say there really was the good old days.

[paparush]

23. Nail has been hit squarely on the head. nt

[awoke_in_2003]

26. Don't forget...

Glass-Stiegel.

[Catherina]

28. Recommending your astute point. n/t

[Forkboy]

30. Birds of a feather, and all that.

[unkachuck]

31. K&R for truth....n/t

[RoccoR5955]

32. I've said it in the past, and I'll say it again... Clinton was the best Republican President

we have had in my 55 years on this planet!

[liberation]

34. I don't know...

... so far Obama is giving him a run for his money. He's the best republican president we have had in the XXI century bar none...

[burning rain]

35. I recall Clinton's contribution during the health care debate.

He avoided specifics and gave speeches saying that Dems should go for the best deal they could get, take it, and the polls would go up as soon as it was signed. It didn't work out so well, as even he has admitted.

[Egnever]

36. And this is why there is so much unrest

Our memories last like three weeks in this country.

Bill Clinton - when he was "trotted" out during the health care debate

"It's not important to be perfect here. It's important to act, to move, to start the ball rolling," Clinton told reporters after the meeting. "There will be amendments to this effort, whatever they pass, next year and the year after and the year after, and there should be. It's a big, complicated, organic thing. But the worst thing to do is nothing."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/10/AR2009111017413.html?wprss=rss_health

"So I think it is good politics to pass this and to pass it as soon as they can. But I think the most important thing is, it’s the right thing for America. We just simply — the worst thing to do is nothing. The worst thing to do is to keep dragging around a 16.5 percent of G.D.P. health care system that doesn’t sent cover everybody — doesn’t get the right results — and do so much better."

Video at link

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/11/10/clinton_on_health_care_the_worst_thing_to_do_is_nothing.html

[xchrom]

37. Recommend