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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:22 AM
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No, Mr. President, you did not negotiate a winning tax deal
By Bill Black, Associate Professor of Economics and Law at the University of Missouri-Kansas City and a former senior financial regulator

The administration claims that it negotiated a winning deal with the Republicans on taxes because the Republicans gave up more than did the Democrats in the deal — a better deal than Obama thought possible. Austan Goolsbee’s (Chairman of Obama’s Council of Economic Advisors) white board presentation claims that the administration received concessions by the Republicans that are over twice as large as the concessions that the administration made on reducing taxes for the wealthiest two percent of Americans ($238 v. $114 billion in 2011). The administration (implicitly) argues that its claim of extraordinary negotiating success represents a miraculous accomplishment given the facts that the Republicans were holding all legislation hostage to their non-negotiable demand that the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest of Americans be extended and the administration’s irrevocable decision that it could not call the Republican’s bluff because the economy would likely sink back into recession unless tax cuts for the middle class were immediately passed.

The first problem with Obama’s claimed tax miracle is that if you accept Goolsbee’s claims, then it takes a political miracle in America for a political party, pledged to ending the tax cuts for the wealthy, controlling the Presidency and with strong majorities in both Houses to get 98% of the citizens 67% of the benefits while giving the wealthiest two percent of the citizens 33% of the benefits. If Goolsbee is correct, then Obama’s tax miracle vastly increased America’s already record income inequality and ensures that the ultra wealthy will have even more dominant political power in the future to ensure that there are no new miracles. If Goolsbee is right, then things are so bad that our miracles are now disasters that further imperil our democracy.

The second problem with Obama’s claimed tax miracle is that it is too good to be true. If the Republicans really had total negotiating leverage and really opposed Obama’s plans then they would not have made any meaningful concessions to Obama. The material tax reductions for the non-wealthy and modest increased spending that the Republicans were willing to agree to prove that the Republicans could not have had total negotiating leverage and have been opposed to Obama’s proposals.

The third problem is that no element of the claimed miracle is true. The Democrats had overwhelming negotiating leverage, the Republicans did not oppose, and often strongly favored, Obama’s proposals on taxes compared to their alternative — no tax cuts. Obama capitulated to Republican demands and negotiated a deal that harmed the nation. He capitulated in a manner than guarantees that the Republicans (and the surviving Blue Dogs) will increase their tactics of bullying and holding Americans hostage to their political demands. The Republicans have confirmed (again) that Obama can be bluffed even where the bluff is taken right out of the movie Blazing Saddles (because it is facially absurd). The President compounded his failure by folding his winning hand when he would have been on the cusp of victory had he not undercut through secret surrender negotiations his Party’s big win in the House. Obama then engaged in his characteristic attack on his strongest supporters, channeling Republicans’ favorite diatribes about progressive Democrats. As my second column explained, the administration descended so low that while it was excoriating its supporters it gloried in the praise it received for capitulating on tax reductions for the wealthy from the banks representing (and the bankers who are among) the wealthiest two percent of Americans.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/12/bill-black-no-mr-president-you-did-not-negotiate-a-winning-tax-deal.html
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:23 AM
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:25 AM
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2. K&R...n/t
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:26 AM
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3. k&r
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:28 AM
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4. K&R with much sadness. n/t
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:37 AM
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5. The House dems undercut themselves by not debating this well prior to Nov 4.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:46 AM
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6. I hate it that every stinking think the President does wrong gets picked
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 08:48 AM by Maraya1969
up on and made like it is a Really Big Deal. It is a sentence. Like Al Gore saying he invented the internet. Was he castigated like this? EDIT to add that Gore was castigated but not by his own party.

President Obama has fucked up plenty but remember all the good things he has done, (look it up if you don't know).
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 10:04 AM
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8. It's a stinking thin(k)g alright...
but it's not a little thing. It actually is a Really Big Deal.

Why would you think it's just "a little thing", "no big deal"?
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:02 PM
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9. Let me just repeat one thing that was said and that sounds like Sean Hannity or Limbaugh
"Obama’s claimed tax miracle "

Definitely a sardonic quote about President Obama.

Here is what Hannity says when he refers to Obama.

"The anointed one"

Obama didn't even call this a miracle. He specifically said there were things in the bill that he didn't like.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:39 AM
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7. Robert Greenstein: Congress should approve this package

CBPP Statement: Robert Greenstein, Executive Director, on the Tax Cut-Unemployment Insurance Deal

The deal between President Obama and Republican leaders on tax cuts and unemployment insurance has two substantial positive aspects: its surprisingly strong protections for low- and middle-income working families and its stronger-than-expected boost for the economy and jobs. But it also has two deeply disturbing negative features: not only the extension of the high-end income-tax cuts, but also an egregious estate-tax giveaway that Senator Jon Kyl demanded for the estates of the wealthiest one-quarter of 1 percent of Americans who die.

Congress should approve this package — its rejection will likely lead to a more problematic package that does less for middle- and low-income workers and less for the economy. Then, in 2012, when the economy should be stronger, the President should make clear he will veto any legislation to extend either the high-end tax cuts or the weakening of the estate tax beyond the estate-tax parameters that were in place in 2009, and he should take that case to the country.

The Positives in the Package

In several respects, the package exceeds the expectations we and many other observers had set when the negotiations began.

■ The 13-month extension of federal unemployment benefits is a major accomplishment. Only a few weeks ago, the House fell short of passing a three-month extension. The 13-month extension will prevent 7 million jobless workers from losing essential income support, without which they would have to cut their purchases substantially, causing the loss of many more jobs. The Council of Economic Advisers recently estimated that an end to these benefits would cause the loss of 600,000 ­jobs and cut already-inadequate economic growth by 0.6 percentage points by the end of next year, quite a large amount; Goldman Sachs recently made a similar estimate of the impact on economic growth.

■ The package continues for two years all of the 2009 Recovery Act improvements in the Earned Income Tax Credit, the American Opportunity Tax Credit (which helps students from low- and middle-income families afford college), and the refundable component of the Child Tax Credit. These measures are simultaneously effective stimulus policy, desirable social policy, and admirable anti-poverty policy. They encourage work over welfare and help more Americans obtain a college education; they provide sound stimulus by putting money in the hands of hard-pressed working families that will spend it; and they substantially reduce child poverty.

■ The package also contains a one-year reduction of 2 percentage points in the employee share of the Social Security payroll tax; workers will pay a 4.2 percent tax on their first $106,800 in wages, rather than 6.2 percent. This provision, which would replace the current “Making Work Pay” tax cut, would raise workers’ take-home pay by $120 billion in 2011 (relative to current law) and consequently should provide some economic boost.

These provisions would protect low- and middle-income workers and their families and, by boosting their incomes, also preserve or create substantial numbers of jobs. Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody’s Analytics, estimates that federal unemployment benefits generate $1.60 in economic activity for every dollar in cost; the refundable tax credits generate about $1.20 to $1.40 in activity for each dollar in cost; and the payroll tax reduction generates about $1.25 for each dollar in cost. In other words, all of these measures rank high in “bang-for-the-buck” effectiveness.

In this part of the package, the White House achieved everything it sought for low- and middle-income families. It apparently did not compromise on these issues.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3340
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:18 PM
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10. K&R Nailed it. Black is one of the real experts on this.
Obama should have made him one of his advisors from the gitgo.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:52 PM
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11. K&R . . . . Thanks.



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