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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:08 PM
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FBI stings against Muslim groups
Attorney General Eric Holder defends legality of FBI stings against Muslim groups
By Jerry Markon
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, December 11, 2010; 12:32 AM

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. struck back against criticism that the FBI has targeted Muslims in a series of undercover stings, telling a Muslim group Friday night that those who allege government entrapment "simply do not have their facts straight."

In one of his most pointed and personal responses to allegations that government anti-terrorism tactics are overly aggressive, Holder strongly defended the FBI agents he said are fighting a wave of terrorist plots. Without their efforts, he said in a speech in San Francisco, "government simply could not meet its most critical responsibility of protecting American lives."

Wading into the most controversial recent case, Holder backed the FBI's investigation of an Oregon man charged with trying to detonate a bomb at a Christmas tree lighting ceremony. FBI technicians had supplied the device, leading some Muslims and civil libertarians to question whether agents went too far by training the man for terrorism.

"I make no apologies for how the FBI agents handled their work," Holder said. He spoke in a hotel ballroom before an estimated 300 people invited by Muslim Advocates, a group that itself is suing the Justice Department to learn more about investigative guidelines for FBI agents.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/10/AR2010121007733.html?hpid=topnews
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:11 PM
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1. Jeremy Scahill says the FBI spends a lot of time busting their own plots.
lol
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:16 PM
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2. If they want real plots they should be going against ABORTION protest groups
...and other right wing terrorists.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:21 PM
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4. I'm sure that they are. Right wing militias are armed and particularly dangerous...
ATF has probably infiltrated these new hate groups too. It takes time to investigate and obtain evidence.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:18 PM
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3. The moral of the story
for American muslims is: just say no terrorism.

That way you avoid being a useful idiot for either some guy in a cave
or (more likely) neocon policies that make life worse for everyone (but especially muslims).
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:22 PM
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5. More apt moral: just say no to FBI agents and their stupid set ups. n/t
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:38 PM
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6. And don't turn your kid in when he starts talking about bombing people.
Because it turns out so much better when he shows up in a shopping mall with a semi automatic.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 01:05 PM
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7. parents have choices. They can commit the kids to mental institutions or
wait and, after the shooting, let the government put them in penile institutions.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 01:38 PM
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8. exactly! excellent point
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:10 PM
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10. They are.. that's the problem here.. see my link below
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 02:11 PM by walldude
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 03:14 PM
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11. Life is all about choices.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:10 PM
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9. Fucking lying sack of shit
has the balls to say this crap after an FBI undercover agent got THROWN OUT OF A MOSQUE FOR TRYING TO INCITE "JIHAD"...


http://www.dailylobo.com/index.php/article/2010/12/undercover_agents_story_shows_fbi_entraps_muslims


But it's ok, because it's a Democratic administration. :eyes:
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:23 PM
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12. Lets see if I have this story straight
1) Find a chump (an IQ that is less than a shoe box) with a chip on his/her (no discrimination here) shoulder (check, done)

2) Give them a pep talk on what they can do for their country and how good it will be (check, done)

3) Supply the stooge with a mock-up device (or a real one if what some real fireworks) and tell them where to go (check, done)

4) Bust the dolt in time for the six o'clock news (extra points if done for the five o'clock news so it can seen twice in the evening, even better it done on Monday so it can be seen throughout the entire week)


With these types of programs, the only security we are getting is job security for the good folks at the FBI!


Where is that 'shit' happy face when I need it. It was just around here just a second ago, man oh man...
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