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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:27 PM
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Cables show Ireland irked Vatican on sovereignty
Cables show Ireland irked Vatican on sovereignty

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By FRANCES D'EMILIO, Associated Pres Frances D'emilio, Associated Pres – 2 hrs 13 mins ago
VATICAN CITY – Newly released U.S. diplomatic cables indicate that the Vatican felt "offended" that Ireland failed to respect Holy See "sovereignty" by asking high-ranking churchmen to answer questions from an Irish government commission probing decades of sex abuse of minors by clergy.

The U.S. ambassador to the Holy See also condemned the leaks and said in a statement that the Vatican and America cooperate in promoting universal values.

According to the deputy to the Irish ambassador to the Holy See, the Irish government gave in to Vatican pressure and allowed the church officials to avoid answering questions from the inquiry panel, according to one of the cables from a U.S. diplomat.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/wikileaks;_ylt=AnnFcEUf2Bllz8dqn_dPkNYBuaN4;_ylu=X3oDMTJudHQ5ajNrBGFzc2V0Ay9zL2FwL3dpa2lsZWFrcwRjY29kZQNtcF9lY184XzEwBGNwb3MDMgRwb3MDMgRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3JpZXMEc2xrA2NhYmxlc3Nob3dpcg--


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America and the Vatican are promoting whose "universal values" --- ?

What value in letting the Vatican avoid answering questions from Ireland's panel on sexual abuse--?


Vatican also "chilled relations" between Anglicans/Church of England and its affiliates in

160 countries over Pope's invitation to disaffected Anglicans to join Catholic Church.

This based on Vatican teachings re homosexuality as sinful.

Evidently Anglican leaders are worried that this could "aggravate 'latent anti-catholicism'

in majority-Protestant England" -- which could possibly lead to isolated cases of violence.



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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:36 PM
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1. The Vatican counts on 'sovereignty'.
'Legal waters are murky because of the Vatican's special status as an independent state within Italy. This time, Italian investigators were able to move against the Vatican Bank because the Bank of Italy classifies it as a foreign financial institution operating in Italy. However, in one of the 1980s scandals, prosecutors could not arrest then-bank head Paul Marcinkus, an American archbishop, because Italy's highest court ruled he had immunity.'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9402966
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:44 PM
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2. One square mile "sovereignity" .... populated only by males ... !!!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:48 PM
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3. Aricsymeht. -nt
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:49 PM
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4. True. But they proclaimed it and everyone
politely goes along with it. Until people get brave enough to change that 'sovereignty' business it'll remain hard to tackle them on anything.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:25 PM
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5. Also gives them a vote at the United Nations --
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