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DontTreadOnMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:09 PM
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What PERCENT of the total unemployed will benefit?
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 12:10 PM by DontTreadOnMe
From the Obama/McConnell Tax Cut Plan?

I am wondering if more or less than 50% of the total unemployed will we see an extension?
How many unemployed will NOT see ANY benefit?
How many 99ers drop off in Jan 2010?
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:10 PM
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1. Good question; but you should include free-lancers et al. who never got any benefits to begin with.
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 12:12 PM by snot
In our "entrepreneurial" economy, there are a lot more free-lancers than there were in, say, the 70's.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:17 PM
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2. Why, I think *none* of them should...
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 12:20 PM by Davis_X_Machina
..see any benefit, unless they all do.

The justice of this is so clear, that it will more than compensate for any actual physical or mental distress felt by those whose UI would otherwise be extended by the compromise.

Kill the Bill!
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:26 PM
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3. I am jobless, without benefits, but I don't begrudge anyone who can get them from keeping theirs.
Not only will a couple of million unemployed benefit, but also the millions that are part of their families.

This is a case where I believe that the opinions of the jobless who would lose their benefits hold much more weight concerning killing the bill than those who are comfortable and have jobs and scream for the bill to be killed.

In a perfect world all of the unemployed would receive benefits. This is not a perfect world and as I said, even though I am jobless and receive no benefits because I was self employed I don't begrudge anyone else from getting help.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:32 PM
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4. Except for one tiny thing.
This bill guarantees there will be no jobs when this extension runs out. So there will be many more unemployed and desperate than before. You are trading a temporary fix for a few for prolonged misery for many, INCLUDING THAT FEW.

No one, especially the rich who have raped us, will invest in this country until we make an attempt to achieve solvency. There isn't enough in the entire middle class to do that because 90% of the wealth is in the hands of about 2% of our population (is it really that small a percentage?). UNLESS WE TAX THE RICH THERE IS NO HOPE OF RE-STARTING THE ECONOMY. ZILCH. ZERO. NONE.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:38 PM
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5. You maybe don't begrudge...
...but some folks here sure do. Here. In this thread.

But hey, a cold, hard, small, disciplined, real Democratic party is the only thing that will save the country. Revolutions call for sacrifices.

Oh, sure, some people will carp, and point out that during this process real people will suffer real pain that could otherwise have been averted. When the historical necessity of their sacrifice is explained to them properly, however, they will come around.

Some day, when real progressives finally take power, we can recognize their sacrifice. A memorial, something tasteful, and not too grandiose on the Mall? Or a commemorative stamp…we could have Banksey do it; think how cool that would be. Which would you prefer?

Remind me again, when did Lenin die? Did Lenin die?
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