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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:50 PM
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Mayor Bloomberg Says Obama's Democratic Base Should `Suck It Up' on Tax-Cut Deal
Bloomberg Says Obama's Democratic Base Should `Suck It Up' on Tax-Cut Deal
By Molly Peterson and Gopal Ratnam
December 12, 2010

President Barack Obama should tell Democrats angered by his compromises with Republicans on extending tax cuts to “suck it up,” New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said.

Obama “can’t just sit there and depend on ideology” because “leadership is about doing the possible, not sitting around and waiting for the perfect,” Bloomberg said in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

Bloomberg told business executives in Brooklyn last week that the U.S. economy will stagnate if Congress remains mired in partisan gridlock. Obama should tell Democratic critics his bipartisan tax-cut deal won’t be the only tough vote of his presidency, Bloomberg said on NBC.

(That's right. Next year, Democrats and progressives will be told by President Obama to "suck it up" when he and the Republican party present new proposals to cut government deficits on the backs of working people and the elderly .... the massive cuts that will be proposed by deficit hawks in government jobs, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and other programs that benefit the real middle class and the working class. BBI)

“He says, ‘Look, this is what I did, this is the best I can do. Suck it up,’” Bloomberg said, when asked how Obama should deal with Democrats angered by the tax measure and other compromises with Republicans.

Read the full article at:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-12/bloomberg-says-obama-s-democratic-base-should-suck-it-up-.html

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:55 PM
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1. Rocktivity says that it's time for Bloomberg and the rest of the $250K crowd
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 04:05 PM by rocktivity
to suck it up themselves and start paying your their share.

x(
rocktivity
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:56 PM
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2. We could caucus as the Suck It Up Serfs.
nt
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:20 PM
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27. Or, as the "98%ers Caucus". nt
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:56 PM
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3. We have for a decade.
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 03:57 PM by mmonk
When are you Reaganomics cultists going to?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:57 PM
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4. Of course he does.
He's filthy fucking rich. Fuck him.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:57 PM
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5. Is "suck it up" another phrase for "let them eat cake?"
Bloomberg should consider the fate of Maria Antionette
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:58 PM
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7. +100
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 03:58 PM
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6. This part of the DEM base sez Bloomberg should just "suck it". nt
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:02 PM
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8. Would Repugs really be able to accept no tax cuts at all? Call their bluff!
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 04:03 PM by reformist2
If forced to choose between a tax cut on "only" their first $250K of income or nothing, at all, we all know Repugs would cave!
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:05 PM
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9. Mayor Bloomberg worth an estimated 18 billion bucks. "Suck it up" peasants!


Mayor worth an estimated $18 billion

Elected mayor of New York City three times, Bloomberg, 68, made his fortune by building a financial information and news media empire and has a net worth of $18 billion, according to an estimate by Forbes magazine.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40628514/ns/politics
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:06 PM
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10. IN other words, Let Them Eat Cake.
:puke:
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gort Donating Member (567 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 05:00 PM
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22. The 2%-ers say it is their cake and they are going to eat all of it, too!
nt
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:09 PM
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11. You will vote Dem and you will like it or else you will be working out with the peasants.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:11 PM
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12. The multi-billionaire is really telling working people, the elderly and the poor to suck it up.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:15 PM
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13. K & R
:thumbsup:
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:18 PM
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14. I can think of several things Bloomberg can do, but they would get me censored.
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DemocratAholic Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:20 PM
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15. however you may feel about this deal...
Remember, Bloomberg is a Republican. YES, that is correct. In spite of the fact that the media is always referring to Bloomberg as an "Independent," he is not. He ran on the Republican line all 3 times he ran for NYC mayor, and was opposed by the Democratic Party. He runs against Democrats, and donates piles of money to Republicans. And please, do not ever forget what Bloomberg did during the Republican convention in 2004 in NYC, when he had his gestapo arrest thousands of peaceful protesters for no other reason than to make George W. Bush look good. He is a despicable person who tries to portray himself as something that he is not. Nothing makes me more ill than when Democrats try and portray him as innocuous or some kind of supporter of Democratic principles. The fact that he has the nerve to even address Democrats and tell US how we should feel about anything makes me want to puke.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:22 PM
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16. Although he was a registered Democrat until 2001. NT
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DemocratAholic Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:47 PM
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21. not sure what your point is in saying he used to be a Democrat
Are you trying to suggest that implies that he really thinks like a Democrat? He changed his party affiliation so that he could run against the Democratic nominee for mayor - because Democrats wanted no part of him, and he knew he could never be nominated by the Democratic Party. The fact that he claims he used to be a Democrat shows how unprincipled is, and he is willing to hurt our party for the sake of his own ambition. That's just another thing about him that makes me want to puke. By the way, there's quite a few people who used to be Democrats who have switched to Republican...Jesse Helms, Trent Lott, Strom Thurmond, Elizabeth Dole, David Duke, Rick Perry... The switches are more of a nightmare than those who are lifelong Republicans. And let's not forget Mike Bloomberg's good friend Joe Lieberman, who now also calls himself an "independent" after he was rejected by the Democrats and now joins with Republicans at every twist and turn.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:04 PM
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23. It's very strange. There is a weird, small subculture of Bloomberg...
...fans on DU.

It is weird and small, but it's denizens are most determined. They are willfully obstinate: to the point where they will ignore all of the evidence (such as that which you present above --- and much , much, more) and continue to insist that Bloomberg is at heart a Democrat. Not only that but he's a *progressive*.

Their true, full motivation is unclear. But it seems unlikely that they really believe what they claim to believe.

They've been quiet lately, but believe me, they're here. One of DU's enduring mysteries.

Anyhoo.... welcome to DU.
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DemocratAholic Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:59 PM
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37. the Bloomberg apologists are everywhere
You can't post anything anywhere negative on any forum about Mike Bloomberg without a very quick response from one of his "defenders." I have made several videos attacking him on YouTube, and before I had even finished uploading (I'm totally serious) I had some nutcase leaving comments disputing my points which were undeniable. The impression that I had at the time was that it appeared to be a full-time job. I imagined that when are a billionaire, you can afford to seek out anything negative which is said about you on the Internet, and if not buy the website to eliminate it, at least leave comments to give the impression that he has some kind of grassroots movement behind him. After looking at the demographics on YouTube, by the way, I discovered the comments were not even coming from this country. It was very odd. Of course, I am in no way suggesting that kind of thing goes on in this forum. Just my thoughts from YouTube! And from living in NYC, I am actually painfully aware of the fact that a lot of Democrats actually do like him, or are afraid to say anything that may ruffle his feathers. The fact that Obama failed to do anything to support the Democratic candidate for mayor in the last election was a painful reminder of how Bloomberg scares even the most powerful people from daring to speak out against him.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:10 PM
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25. On social issues, he's much more aligned with Democrats
than with Republicans.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:23 PM
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28. "social issue democrats" - those are the ones who don't care who you sleep with so long as *they*
get everybody's money.

pubs want everybody's money, & also to tell you who to sleep with.

but if you have no money, what does it matter who you sleep with -- you'll break up soon, or die.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:28 PM
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30. Yeah, those pesky social issues. They don't matter at all. NT
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:32 PM
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31. when you lose your home, your livelihood, & are begging on the street, nobody gives a damn
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 08:33 PM by Hannah Bell
who you sleep with.

you're basically a non-person unless you steal something, in which case you're an evil criminal.

"social issues" are the wedge elites use to divide the working class.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:35 PM
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33. You mean "social issues" like marriage equality and DADT?
Lots of people here would beg to differ with you.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:42 PM
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34. i don't care if you disagree with me. they are indeed a wedge used by the ruling class to divide
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 08:46 PM by Hannah Bell
people.

when i was young, young people were fighting for the right *not* to be married & *not* to serve in the military.

now it's the reverse.

the whole time, the thieves have been picking your pockets & shutting down your jobs.

just as wingers will vote for someone who wants to impoverish them if he's anti-abortion, libs will vote for the same person if he's pro-abortion.

they can wave that bloody red rag forever while they bleed us dry.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:40 PM
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35. Bullshit.
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 09:42 PM by Smarmie Doofus
Bloomberg's Stand On Gay Marriage
Published: February 10, 2005


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9407E7D6163AF933A25751C0A9639C8B63


To the Editor:

Re ''The Mayor and Gay Marriage'' (editorial, Feb. 8):

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg recently decided to appeal the decision by Judge Doris Ling-Cohan that allows same-sex couples the right of civil marriage.

The mayor's main legal argument is that under state law marriage is solely between a man and a woman. Judge Ling-Cohan deserves credit for stating the obvious: the equal protection clause of the New York State Constitution is crystal clear -- that every citizen is entitled to the same rights under our law, including the right to civil marriage.

Mayor Bloomberg now sheepishly claims to the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community that he is appealing the decision to ''help'' us by creating an expedited route to the state's highest court. He states that he does not want gay couples hurt by getting married now only to find the marriages voided by a higher court later.

The gay community doesn't need a pat on the head from the mayor, nor do we need him to spare us pain: we face discrimination on a daily basis. What we need from the mayor is moral and political courage. Had he chosen not to appeal this decision, he would have sent a powerful message that denying civil rights to any group is unacceptable under our system of law. Instead he sends a message that, under political pressure, no citizen is safe from discrimination.

Thomas K. Duane
State Senator
29th Senate District
New York, Feb. 8, 2005

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Foo Fighter Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 10:37 PM
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38. "Although he was a registered Democrat until 2001."
No biggie. Obama was a registered Democrat at one time too.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:23 PM
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17. I could probably live off Bloomberg's tax cut for the rest of my life.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:30 PM
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18. No probably about it, you could live the rest of your life in luxury off his tax cut...
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 04:35 PM by Bjorn Against
In fact it is probably a fairly safe bet that not only you but your extended family including all your aunts, uncles, cousins nieces and nephews could live off Bloomberg's tax cuts for the rest of your lives. It would be interesting to see a calculation of exactly what Bloomberg's tax cut is, but it is definitely many millions.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:24 PM
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29. the whole city of nyc could. bloomberg could pay the entire nyc deficit & have cash to burn.
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 08:25 PM by Hannah Bell
he's the 10th richest man in the world.

and that doesn't include the cash in his off-shored accounts -- or his private foundation.
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:34 PM
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19. Already posted:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:35 PM
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20. We're not his base. Are we his base? Everyone says he's really conservative.
So Bloomberg has it wrong.

I hate that autocratic shit. When has anyone every told a right-winger to suck it up?
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:05 PM
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24. And Obama should listen to Bloomberg because?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:41 PM
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36. Because he's a billionaire and might offer President Obama a Wall Street job in 2013?
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 09:41 PM by Better Believe It
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 10:43 PM
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39. It appears that people like Bloomberg are the only ones Mr. Obama is listening to. nt
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:18 PM
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26. Right. That's who we need advice from. Who asked you Bloomberg?
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jorae28 Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 08:35 PM
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32. Every poll showS tax cuts for under $250 only
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 08:37 PM by jorae28
Again we are being bomboozeled by the Right Wing...

Suck it up? Unless this is not a democracy, they are the ones who should be sucking it up...

Revolutions start with crap like this and the same thing was done with the Health Reform and the public option...they lied to push their own agenda and not what the majority wanted...
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Bloomberg National Poll conducted by Selzer & Company. Dec. 4-7, 2010.
Poll states...


"I'm going to mention some of the ideas for reducing the
deficit. For each, please tell me if this is something you favor or oppose. Eliminate tax cuts the wealthiest Americans have received
in recent years."

ELIMINATE TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHIEST..IN Favor......59%
Opposed....38%
unsure.....8%

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December 3rd, 2010
http://politicalticker.bl...t-extension-for-wealthy/

According to a CBS News survey released Thursday evening, 53 percent of the public says that the cuts should be extended ONLY ONLY ONLY for families making a combined income of less that $250,000 a year, with 26 percent saying the lower tax rates should be continued for all Americans, and 14 percent saying they should be allowed to expire at the end of the year.
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The only 26 percent in the CBS News poll who say that the cuts should be extended for all Americans is lower than the figures in other recent surveys.
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ONLY ONLY ONLY....Four in ten questioned in a USA Today/Gallup survey released Wednesday say that the cuts should be extended for all Americans, *SO THAT MEANS 6 IN TEN DO NOT WANT IT TO ALL AMERICANS....)with 44 percent saying they support extending the tax breaks but setting limits on how much of wealthy Americans' income is eligible for the lower rates, and 13 percent saying the cuts should be allowed to expire at the end of the year.
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An Associated Press-CNBC poll released Tuesday indicates that half of those questioned wanted tax cuts to be extended ONLY FOR ONLY FOR ONLY FOR..... for families making under $250,000 a year, with 34 percent saying they should be extended for all Americans, and 14 percent calling for the cuts to sunset for everyone at the end of the year.
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Forty-nine percent of people questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey conducted in the middle of November said the tax cuts should be extended for families making less than $250,000 a year, with another 15 percent saying the cuts should not be extended for anyone. ......That left ONLY ONLY ONLY ...ONLY ....ONLY 35 percent who favor an extension of the tax cuts for all Americans regardless of how much money they make.

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AGAIN...LIES AND THE STRONG ARMS GET WHAT THEY WANT...NOT WHAT THE COUNTRY WANTS...

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE FASCISM TO YOU?
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