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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 01:56 PM
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Just wondering who everyone in here liked for pres
I'm a Kucinich man myself
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 02:19 PM
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1. Kucinich is a good man.
He's great on the issues, too.

Personally, I'd love to see Bobby Kennedy, Jr. run, but I fear that is never to be. Mario Cuomo is someone who would have been a great POTUS. I'm waiting to see who else gets in or drops out before I make a final choice.

TC
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 03:09 PM
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2. He sucks on choice
and had a terrible voting record until he declared his candidacy in 2004. I don't trust him and I won't cross that line.

Edwards talks a good fight on poverty issues, and seems to be the only one talking about the 80% of us who didn't do all that well during the Clinton boom and the 90% of us who have been completely left out of Stupid's great economy.

Richardson is growing on me. He's good on a lot of environmental issues and managed not only to get a commuter rail in this state approved, but to get a good part of it up and running. Ridership is increasing with the gas prices. He's also signed a medical marijuana bill that covers it from cultivation through prescription and distribution. Nobody can match him for foreign policy experience. He had a bad first term, but he seems to have smartened up a lot since he's been out of DC and away from the DLC inner circle. He's still DLC, but he shows every sign of shaking them up. A lot.

Obama is the orator of the bunch. He has a good voting record and a great deal of personal appeal. My own feeling is that this is a trial run for him, but he'll be a force to be reckoned with in the future.

Clinton is the most business friendly and has the most money, although not by an insurmountable sum. She has name recognition, something that works both for and against her. She hasn't talked much about her health plan, though, and I have to wonder whether or not she's going to discard trying to Bandaid the mess we have now by leaving insurance companies in the mix. If she is the candidate, I'll vote for her, but I won't be happy about it.

Gravel is saying a lot of things about foreign policy that a lot of people want to hear, but his tax proposal is both cruel and inadequate. All flat sales tax proposals are.

Biden talks a good labor fight and has a great deal of organized labor support.

Dodd, poor Dodd. He was hanging in there until he told us all we all needed to sacrifice. Sorry, bud, but we've been doing that since the 70s. It's THEIR turn now.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:02 PM
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3. It's the single reason I am not in his camp right now.
Choice is a very important issue to me.

TC
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 04:51 PM
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4. Thanks, sometimes I feel alone here
He's great on men's issues. He just sucks on the one most basic right for half the population of this country: the right to control their own bodies.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 05:21 AM
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9. His votes changed in 2002, well before he declared candidacy
His platform is strictly pro-choice now.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 01:09 PM
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28. Still, I don't
trust it either.

Why did he change his position? Because it's important to him, or because he wanted a fighting chance with women voters?

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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 09:09 AM
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6. I really like Richardson
but he did very poorly in the debates and wouldnt stand up for impeachment, which is why I changed my vote to Kucinich, its not too late for Richardson to change my mind back though.
I also like Wes and Gore, of course.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:54 PM
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27. I wish Richardson had the guts to drop his
pro-death penalty stance.

I can NOT vote for ANYONE who's pro-death...

As for Kucinich, if he weren't pro-choice, I wouldn't support him... That's another deal-killer with me.

I support Dennis Kucinich...
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 05:32 AM
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36. That's really unfair to hold Kucinich's PAST anti-choice position against him
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 05:35 AM by Ken Burch
Too many progressives used that in 2004 as a bogus excuse to back Dean instead of Kucinich, even though Dean never actually deserved left-Democratic support, especially not working-class left-Democratic support.

(This should not be taken as an attack on Dean as DNC chair, but simply a comment on his failed presidential campaign, btw.)

And even if Kucinich had somehow actually been nominated and elected on an antichoice platform, the prochoice majority of the party would have forced him to be effectively prochoice when in office.

It's thinking like that that led a lot of Democrats to stay loyal to Bill Clinton and not do the sensible thing and organize a left-Democratic primary challenge to him in 1996, even though the man had abandoned all other recognizable Democratic positions by then. "He's prochoice and that's all that matters" too many of them said.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:07 PM
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5. Gravel
I think I am the only one on DU with his avatar! I love his courage. Some call him crazy, when the reality is , they fear his truthfulness.
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 06:32 AM
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8. I like him
still think hes a little nuts (and his ad campaign hasnt helped that ;) )
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 03:03 PM
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7. Edwards
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 11:42 AM
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10. Of the ones with a shot....
Edwards will have to do.

I'm too much of a pragmatist. Besides, Gore probably won't run.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 06:34 PM
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11. Kucinich
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 12:17 AM
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12. My first choice is obvious (and I'd like to know what, if anything, he can do
to convince you that he changed his heart on choice). A lack of choice, combined with the likely SCOTUS nominations, will force me to vote for the Dem nominee, but I really don't like any of the others.

Gravel makes some good points, but his tax proposal would decimate what's left of the middle class and the poor would just have to die if he got his way.

All the rest are just corporate shills that will do whatever their masters tell them to.


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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 02:09 AM
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13. Gravel's tax thing is basically anti-urban
The idea is that you'd get a "prebate" to compensate for the sales tax you'd have to pay on everything, including rent and utilities. Unfortunately, the poverty level used to compute it is based on food only multiplied by three, which means that high rent urban areas (where the jobs are) get totally screwed, since rent and utilities are the basic budget busters there.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:54 AM
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14. Kucinich. n/t
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stimbox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:16 AM
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15. Kucinich and Edwards.
I'd like to see that ticket or Edwards & Kucinich.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 05:26 PM
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16. leaning towards Edwards
speaks like an economic populist
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-05-07 11:59 AM
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17. At the moment only Edwards has impressed me
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 12:29 PM
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18. Kucinich/Edwards.nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 04:45 PM
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19. Obama
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 08:40 PM
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20. Kucinich
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 03:35 PM
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21. Kucinich, but I am registered Green
Please nominate him.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 12:19 PM
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22. Kucinich
why not?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:08 PM
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23. Gore, Dammit.
If you Kucinich types can dream the impossible dream, so can I.

Not that it would bother me all that much to see Dennis actually get it. I pretty much like Dennis on the issues, but there's something a little...strange...about the guy that I just can't put my finger on. I wish I could identify it.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:58 AM
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24. Edwards with a side of Kucinich as VP n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:00 PM
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25. Me too, but I could live with Edwards.
I'm liking Hillary less and less. Now it seems that she is the top campaign fund raiser of the Democratic candidates by tapping into another source that the rest of the candidates haven't, disgruntled Republicans who are pissed with Bush. Do tell. All I can see is another eight years of conservative corporatism with Hillary even though I know she wouldn't be the lunatic Bush is.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:51 AM
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26. I have ultimately joined Kucinich.
Upthread I hadn't yet decided, but he's my caniddate.

I will say this: If another candidate who has the ability to stop the Clinton forced march to the White House does get into the race, and he stays away from the DLC, I would support his challenge at the drop of a hat.

TC

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Fleurs du Mal Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:44 PM
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29. Gravel, Kucinich, Edwards
Are my choices. None of which has a chance.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:55 PM
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30. Nobody anymore
:cry:

I supported Kucinich and could have tolerated Edwards. Now I feel bereft.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:57 PM
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31. You are not alone. n/t
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:21 AM
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32. Boy do I miss Kucinich and Edwards
Things have gotten ugly. Color me disgusted.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 06:58 PM
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33. I hear ya'! n/t
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-18-08 06:45 PM
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34. Kucinich
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Help_I_Live_In_Idaho Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:41 PM
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35. Was Kacinich - Obama's all that is left
So its Obama - Clinton - too establishment
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