Top N.J. Court Reverses Abortion Ruling

[ismnotwasm]

"NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — A doctor has no duty to tell a woman considering an abortion that her embryo is an "existing human being," a unanimous New Jersey Supreme Court ruled Wednesday, averting a trial over when human life begins.

The decision, citing past rulings, said the court "will not place a duty on doctors when there is no consensus in the medical community or among the public" on when life begins.

The 5-0 Supreme Court ruling reversed a unanimous ruling by a three-judge appeals panel and dismissed the lawsuit of a woman who had an abortion. Abortion cases pending in Illinois and South Dakota have raised the same issue.

"On the profound issue of when life begins, this court cannot drive public policy in one particular direction by the engine of the common law when the opposing sides, which represent so many of our citizens, are arrayed along a deep societal and philosophical divide," New Jersey Justice Barry T. Albin wrote for the court"


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jrs9m50NDTbUyvg4Gy0ZyVfdRedg

This is good news, although it's a very sad story. A lot of linguistic mumbo jumbo as well. A nurse calls a embryo a "baby" and the woman got confused evidently. What do the forced birthers do, comb the streets for these stories so they can bring them to court? According to one forced birthers own website, statistically every women in America will have one abortion. (Not true, it breaks down that way I guess)That's a lot. So these court cases, very sad ones, are brought forth to emotionalized the issue and ignore the millions of women who DON'T have emotional issues over their choice, and see that choice as a basic human right.

I feel for the woman in question, but I'm thankful for this ruling.

[iverglas]

1. you need to get out more ;)

Google abortion "informed consent". It's all about how ABORTION HURTS WOMEN. Women therefore have to be forced to listen to faerie tales, and their doctors have to be forced to tell them, so that they won't end up in one of those "post-abortion" support groups that things like the RC church so helpfully provides.

When women realize what a dreadful thing they have done by terminating a pregnancy, they have to find someone to blame for it. Otherwise, they might have to blame themselves, as most reasonably mature adults do when they have done something that causes them problems. Of course, a moderately intelligent and honest person will also say Hmm, I wonder how things would have turned out if I hadn't done that? But no, not women suffering from "post-abortion stress syndrome". They need somebody to blame.

It all just comes together so neatly in the "informed consent" bundle. Coerce as many women as possible into continuing unwanted pregnancies by forcing them to listen to / look at biased representations of their pregnancy, and get the ones who missed that day to blame their medical practitioners for their immature failure to deal.

Google the lawyer while you're at it. An odd duck.

http://www.haroldcassidy.com/bio.php

Mr. Cassidy recently established important precedent in an abortion malpractice case which established for the first time, anywhere in the nation, that a first trimester abortion involved the death of a family member, and the question of whether such an abortion terminated the life of a living human being was a question of fact for a jury to determine.

Eh? Does the jury get to decide how many sides a square has too?

Trust me, it wasn't a sad story. It was one of those litigation vultures looking for a woman to exploit in the service of the anti-choice agenda.

What do the forced birthers do, comb the streets for these stories so they can bring them to court?

You got it!


She was 6 to 7 weeks pregnant at the time of the abortion. I gather from sites I won't link to that some time later, nurses told her the physician had "left parts of the baby inside of her." Well, those nurses ought to brush up on their biology, if that is actually what they said. It was an embryo, for starters.



http://www.humpath.com/Embryo

And that's magnified. Because the actual embryo in the picture was 17 mm long. That's 0.17 x 2.54 = less than half an inch.

In fact, 7 weeks is a pretty early point for performing a surgical abortion, and the risk of products of conception being missed are higher than at a later point, as I understand it. Sadly, the woman involved sounds like a dunderhead, and thus perhaps not a good candidate for medical abortion (RU 486), which requires an ability to take personal responsibility for the process.

[ismnotwasm]

3. I've been catching that

Just looking for news for this forum, WHY am I shocked on how much of it is anti choice? Why? I know better.
There are persistent assholes out there who disseminate wrong information(as we know)thinking constant repetition makes it true. Forced birthers are exceptionally good at it, and that's a good point about how women are manipulated to think about abortion before and after.

[bliss_eternal]

4. ...see my new post on this very thing.

:(
They've created an "academy" to train people how to misinform others. :eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=396&topic_id=391&mesg_id=391

[smokey nj]

2. Thanks for posting this, it's good news.

It's amazing to me that a woman who'd already given birth to two children would be confused about the stages of pregnancy.