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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 04:38 PM
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We know not what we destroy, and perhaps, once destroyed, never will
Newgrange, Ireland's most significant ancient monument and mpnument
complex, has a well-known winter solstice hierophany. Ancient
geodesy study (archaeogeodesy) previously demonstrated that the
Avebury and Newgrange complexes are 1/100 of earth's circuference
apart (and Newgrange to the Great Pyramids is 1/10th). Also, previous
study found that Avebury, the grandest monument complex in the British
Isles, is located at the latitude equaling 360/7, plus other findings.

Recent study found that the summer solstice alignment at Avebury
points to Newgrange, and the alignment of these two major complexes
points to the highest point in Europe, Mont Blanc in the Alps. It was
no surprise that the Avebury to Newgrange summer solstice alignment
was precise at the time of construction of the sites, matching known
radiocarbon dates.

The huge surprise was that the epoch when the Avebury solstice
alignment pointed directly to Newgrange matched when the earth's
obliquity angle equaled precisely 24 degrees (360/15). These
constructions may be an intentional temporal benchmark based on the
slow change in the inclination of the earth's axis of rotation!

A book was quite literally written on the earth around 5,000 years
ago. What we are destroying today is evidence of prehistoric
knowledge, and, perhaps, what our ancestors intended that all people
for all time forward should be able to read. Will we ever know?

More: http://www.jqjacobs.net/blog/neolithic.html
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 07:55 PM
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1. what is being destroyed
precisely?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:40 AM
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2. Archaeological sites
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:36 PM
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3. right
but which ones and why? I thought England was pretty good about preserving historical sites. They don't pave villages with Wal-Marts over there.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:14 PM
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4. The gravel quarry at Thornborough henges is being enlarged, just approved
numerous henges are already gone. A big battle continues to brew over the new M3 motorway passing neat Tara, Ireland. That's the current preservationist struggle of note.There's a very active Yahoo group on Tara. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hilloftara/

It is really a world-wide struggle. Be it pot hunters, highways, dams, vandals, there is just so much destruction it is unparalleled in human history.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:59 PM
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5. thank you
for this information. I had no idea the destruction of these sites was going on.

:cry:
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-01-07 07:00 PM
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7. FYI: Ireland is *not* in England ...
There are parts of England (or even Britain in the wider sense of including
Scotland and Wales) that take great care over their historical sites.
Even so, this can be (and has been) overridden by "the needs of the state"
in some cases - usually translated into a developer wanting to build houses
in the wrong place and slipping an appropriate bribe into the appropriate
pocket.

Sadly, although I love the Irish approach to life (not to mention their
wonderful monuments - though I've yet to visit Newgrange), I suspect that
there will be sufficient weak individuals as to completely f*ck up the
world's ancestral monuments. They might not pave villages with WalMarts
but there is still the ability to slowly shunt certain sites out of the
limelight and so onto the "available land" register.

Here's hoping that the good people of Ireland hold out longer than their
distant brethren in the neighbouring isles ...
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 11:53 AM
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6. A Most Amazing Henge - Lismullin = "Experts had warned for years..."
A Most Amazing Henge - Lismullin

We told you so!
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/82427?condense_comments=true

Experts had warned for years that the M3 should never have been routed through the Gabhra (Tara-Skreen) Valley.
What we refer to today as a “henge” are two related architectural forms that come from the late Neolithic and the early Bronze age. They date from about 2500 to 1800BC and may consist of banks, earth enclosures and also timber circles and that is what we have in this case. Rath Medb at is an example of the earthen enclosure. The best known henge is of course Stonehenge.

The background
As far back as 1999 the NRA received advice from V.J. Keeley Ltd. in the document Archaeological Assessment Paper Survey, Preliminary Area of Interest N3 Dunshaughlin North to Navan West, Co. Meath. This said:

“In addition to being highly visible from the Hill of Tara, the route passes through the archaeologically sensitive landscape of the stream valley (ibid., 6.5.1.). No mitigation would remove the effects of this route on the Hill of Tara or on its outlying monuments. It would have extremely severe implications from an archaeological perspective.”

Then they were warned by Margaret Gowen Ltd. who said:

“The monuments around Tara cannot be viewed in isolation, or as individual sites, but must be seen in the context of an intact archaeological landscape, which should not under any circumstances be disturbed, in terms of visual or direct impact on the monuments themselves”
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