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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:12 AM
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Southwest pottery
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 12:20 AM by dotcosm
Is there a special term for the type of pottery that is made using natural color clays that are swirled together? It reminds me of the technique people use nowadays with polymer clays.

Here's an example - this isn't painted, it's different colored clays.

Edit to add that I just found something similar on ebay (of course!):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Arts-Crafts-NILOAK-Missionware-6-Pottery-SWIRL-NR-Vase_W0QQitemZ250250968897QQihZ015QQcategoryZ2785QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:24 AM
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1. Am not sure about the southwest connection, but...
here's a really good link about Niloak and throwing swirl
http://home.gt.rr.com/digitaldang/arkartpot/niloak.htm

In the southwest, Jemez Pueblo pottery is a swirl mix, but usually crafted by using coiled and/or roped clays in different colors to create beautiful pieces.
http://www.pueblopotteryme.com/jemez4.htm#

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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:39 AM
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2. Want to add this link
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 09:54 AM by Whoa_Nelly
Just a cool pottery link
http://home.sprynet.com/~artware/links.htm

Also, am wondering if there's a connection between the Sioux, South Dakota and 1930s WPA pottery re: swirl throw...?

on edit:


Swirl Pottery The bowl 7 ½” is marked with the WPA black stamp and cg initials incised (Charles Grantier). The blue & cream vase 6 ½” tall is stamped with the WPA black stamp and ph initials incised (Pete Hague). The tall brown vase 7” is marked with the WPA black stamp with ND 1939 incised and also incised is fjl (Frank J Lantz).

http://www.ndpcs.org/wpa.htm


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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:23 PM
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3. Thanks for those links, I'll check them out
Since posting, I've since done some digging and so far I have a few names that seem relevent: Niloak, Desert Sands, and ... well I've forgotten the 3rd, but it didn't lead me anywhere.

From what I've seen, Desert Sands pieces are unglazed on their bottoms, and stamped. While this piece looks equally like the colors/patterns of both Niloak (kaolin, spelled backwards) and Desert Sands, it is glazed on both the top and bottom. It's a piece that I don't see anywhere though - it's a candle holder, and while I find many Niloak candlesticks, I have not yet seen a candle holder like this. It's completely unmarked too, but Niloak used stickers for some pieces, which is likely what happened with this one.

As so often happens, once I get a new "thing" and start researching it so that I can sell it better, I end up liking it enough to not only not sell it, but to look to start acquiring more :sigh:
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 03:39 PM
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4. It must have been too late last night when I was researching
Because now today it's looking to me like I overlooked a very basic obvious detail, one of those things that's right in front of you that you don't see.

Unless I'm mistaken, it looks like the Hiloak pottery is unglazed all over (except inside), while the Desert Sands is glazed except on the bottom.

This piece I have is glazed all over, the only exception is the rim on the bottom, which may have been glazed originally but has since worn off since it's the part that contacts the surface.

LOL.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 05:14 PM
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5. here's one from shopgoodwill.com
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:20 PM
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6. Yeah, I've seen some of those on ebay too, but they're different
While the description for that one says that it's not paint but in the clay, that doesn't look like it to me, because the bottom does not continue the pattern, and the inside does not look like it has the pattern. Dunno, I have to research more to learn the details, but it looks different.

But thanks for posting it! I always forget to look at the goodwill website
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