Can you read this signature?

[Duer 157099]

It's on the bottom of a small salt glazed bowl/pot.

I've tried Barnett but so far haven't confirmed, but maybe new eyes looking at it will have other interpretations.

What do you see?

[Whoa_Nelly]

1. Can you post a pic of the whole piece?

Am already looking, but seeing the pottery piece in its entirety may help narrow things down. :hi:

[Duer 157099]

3. Here ya go (pics)

Now that I got the camera out, I took a bunch of photos of the mysteries I'm trying to solve today - maybe I'll start another thread

[Whoa_Nelly]

6. Am going to go with that it's a studio piece

And I think it's missing a lid...? Possibly a sugar bowl or trinket pot.

Pretty drip glazing ;)

[Duer 157099]

7. The art world is so confusing to me

I never quite get what makes an artist "famous" or "listed" - I've seen some brilliant and beautiful pieces that when I examine them, have a "Made in China" sticker on them, lol (and then of course, I put them right back down. Usually.)

I looked for the lid for this, but you know how it is at thrift stores. That's why I go so often, I frequently complete a piece on subsequent visits. It always amazes me when I find items with all their pieces together, knowing how easily they can get separated.

So I'll surmise that a studio artist is just like a hired hand to make the designs of the studio owner? :shrug:

[Whoa_Nelly]

8. Studio artist

A studio artist is one who works independently, has own studio.

Some of these artists become listed, some don't. :hi:

[Duer 157099]

9. lol, so completely the opposite of what Ithought

well that figures.

How does one become "listed" and what exactly does it mean?

I picked up a couple of mid-century oil paintings at a garage sale this weekend, and I can barely find any info on the artist.

I think I will get my old art supplies out and throw together a few paintings, sign them, and then take them to the thrift store, just to confound somebody. :D

[Whoa_Nelly]

10. Listed Artist

is one who through gallery showings and sales, and sometimes as well as creating a history by participating in their field of endeavor, receives awards, acclamation, renown, a following...sort of being a part of the "Who's Who" world of Art and its many mediums

I have paintings by listed artists, James T. Breen, Friedrich August von Kaulbach, Ruth M. Bennett, and Preston L. Prescott (sculpture)...all listed artists. Yet, for years have been collecting Impressionism paintings by someone named J. Vera. No one knows who he was, and his work looks like early Latin and/or South American tourist trade (oils, and later, acrylics) during the 1930-50s. Some of these paintings have original hand-chipped frames.

So J. Vera, while apparently quite prolific, is not a listed artist anywhere that I can find, but the others I have are listed.

What do you think of this piece of artwork?

[Duer 157099]

13. That feels like a trick question, lol

I have a hard time interpreting art, or figuring out why something appeals to people. Sheesh, most times I don't even know why I like (or dislike) something, just that I do.

My initial honest reaction to the painting you posted was distaste - and I'm trying to figure out why. In general, I don't like portraits (with exceptions of course). The face looks like someone I used to know that I didn't particularly like, so I'm guessing that's why my first reaction was what it was. It also looks amateurish to me, but like I said, I usually miss the mark on such things. What I can say for sure is that I would not hang it on my wall (which also means absolutely nothing since I don't have anything on my walls, lol)

What I do like about it is the red hair. :D

So what, now you're going to tell me that you painted it, right? Or, that it's by a very famous artist and worth millions, so that if I had seen it in a thrift shop, I would have passed it by and lucked out.

C'mon, which is it, hit me with it.

[Whoa_Nelly]

15. I painted it ROFL

Art is all about personal appeal. :)

It's called Laughing Through My Nose

I do more decoupage than painting...probably a good thing ;)








And photography










And, of course, Interior Design:





And furniture redo:

[Duer 157099]

16. LOL, I knew it was a trick

I finally identified who the painting looks like and why I had that reaction, lol - it makes perfect sense to me. So not fair to do that though! :D

And aptly named too, I can imagine it was in reaction to a DUzy of some sort, and your keyboard and monitor had to be cleaned, right?

I love the photography - now, see, all of those photos appeal very much to me aesthetically -- although I have personal issues with decopage, lol - again, I don't know WHY, but it bothers me! Must be something deeply seated from childhood.

So the painting, what's the medium and size (heh, the medium and size)?

[Whoa_Nelly]

18. Oil pastels applied as stick, by brush and by palette knife

It's actually 20x16 in.

[Duer 157099]

20. I really like the color and texture you achieved on the hair

I'm seriously thinking that I should put my supplies to use - I've been meaning to for so long, but never felt inspired. This whole trip down memory lane via the mid-century research, is making me nostalgic. Both of my parents were artists during that same time frame, in So. Cal. - I wouldn't be surprised to see some of their stuff turning up on ebay one day (I need to start watching for that).

[sufrommich]

11. If your oil paintings are good examples of the era,I've found

that it makes little difference whether or not it's a known artist. I've sold quite a few mid century prints and paintings without name recognition."Barely" being able to find info on a mid century painting sounds pretty good to me.I don't think I've ever been able to find info on any of the paintings I've bought.
;-)

[Duer 157099]

14. Well I don't know if these are good examples

Like I've said before, the whole art scene really confuses me.

The frames of these are stamped with "The Art Factory" which makes it sound like this was mass produced consumer art - unless it's just the frame.

Years ago, I made the pilgrimage to a session of Antiques Roadshow with some paintings I had found. I was told that they were (forgot the terminology) but essentially tourist art, or something like that. He said they'd only be worth about $150, lol -- which is how the art world thinks. To me, I picked it up at a thrift store for less than $5, but because it's "tourist" art, it's ::ONLY:: worth a hundred bucks or so. That's quite a laugh to me. If I had more room, I'd be buying every painting I ever run across, if they're all worth at least $100.

Anyway, these are the ones I picked up yesterday. I wouldn't be hanging them on my walls, but I think somebody would. I think artistically they show some skill.

But again, what do I know???



edit to add image of another one I picked up yesterday at a yard sale - a signed lithograph, but the signature is also litho'd so, eh - the price on it was $2 but since it was nearly 3pm, she gave it to me for $1 (!!) - I didn't ask for the discount, I never do, it's just funny to me.

[grasswire]

17. well, ya know...

..there's something to be said for approaching buying in the same manner as someone throws linguine against the wall to see if it sticks. If you're only paying a few bucks for an item about which nothing is known, it's like buying a lottery ticket. Scratch and play. And it's even better than the lottery odds. You can undoubtedly get your two bucks back at resale. Can't get back two bucks on a scratched lottery ticket. So buy, buy, buy everything that has a hint of promise! With no remorse.

[Duer 157099]

19. Yeah, that is how I look at it

although I never thought of the lottery ticket analogy, I'll have to remember that one next time I start feeling guilty.

Also, I get waaaaaay more entertainment value from each purchase, during the whole research process - and I learn an awful lot too. Win-win-win.

But what I should try to do more often is to buy things that I really don't like, because I find those are so much easier to let go of, lol

[sufrommich]

21. Those are really nice,I imagine they wouldn't be hard

to sell on ebay. Here's some art I have in my house that I consider "mid century",most of it I sell,but a hang on to the stuff I really love:

<a href="" target="_blank"><img src="" border="0" alt="Mid Century picture 3"></a>


<a href="" target="_blank"><img src="" border="0" alt="Mid Century Picture 2"></a>


<a href="" target="_blank"><img src="" border="0" alt="Mid Century Painting 1"></a>

[sufrommich]

12. That definitely looks like studio pottery.

Here's some good sites that have helped me( that maybe you haven't found yet) to study pottery marks:
http://www.swankola.com/hiart/hiart.html

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:9fbkJMZwT5oJ:california-pottery-index.com/+will+george+pottery&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us

http://www.hiandlomodern.com/Hi%26LoModern.html

http://www.abenseibeldesign.com/

http://www.jamerantik.dk/kunstnersignaturer_aluminia.htm


Finding an unknown pottery mark can be pretty tedious work,to say the least.

[Whoa_Nelly]

2. Am seeing "Burnett"

Being such a stylized in glaze signature, it could be that it's a studio potter mark, rather than any famous/known maker mark.

[Duer 157099]

4. If I just based it on what I see and not what makes sense,

then I see "Bramdtt" or something equally illogical.

[Duer 157099]

5. Quite possible - there's a Jean Burnett

although I haven't yet seen the bottom of one of her pieces

http://www.parkavenuepottery.biz/gallery.htm