Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The lamest excuse ever. Right-wingers against Pinochet! LOL

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Places » Latin America Donate to DU
 
Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 07:16 AM
Original message
The lamest excuse ever. Right-wingers against Pinochet! LOL

Mérida, February 6th 2009 (Venezuelanalysis.com)– Alberto Federico Ravell, the director of the oppositional television station Globovisión, was questioned by the Attorney General’s office on Wednesday, following accusations that a trip he and three other opposition leaders took to Puerto Rico early last month was part of a conspiracy with U.S. officials against the Chávez government.

A pro-government NGO had filed charges against Ravell, Julio Borges of the party Justice First, Omar Barboza of the Christian Democratic party Copei, and Luis Ignacio Planas of A New Era. The group accused these opposition leaders of treason for having met with U.S. government officials in order to plan the campaign against the February 15 vote to amend the constitution.

The main piece of evidence was an email supposedly from Ravell to various other leaders, outlining the agenda for the meeting in Puerto Rico. Upon their return, a reporter from Avila TV, a pro-government station, surprised Ravell, Borges, and Barboza at the airport.

Following his questioning at the Attorney General’s office, Ravell told reporters Wednesday that he travelled to Puerto Rico to meet with Chileans about the campaign strategy they used to vote the Chilean dictator, General Augusto Pinochet, out of power in a plebiscite in 1988.

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/4183
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 11:09 AM
Response to Original message
1. LOL! Primero Cerebro!
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 11:37 AM
Response to Original message
2. What are the chances Chilean leftists who wanted to get a mass murdering US-supported asshole out of
office would have anything in common with a man who assisted in putting a US-supported asshole in office in Venezuela (Pedro Carmona, who immediately dissolved their constitution, dismissed the National Assembly, removed the Supreme Court, etc. through a coup?

In Chile, Pinochet, with Nixon/Kissinger's funding, and material support, and military support, and propaganda through their own CIA-controlled media (owned by Augustín Edwards), DESTROYED their own President.

They just don't have too much in common. Ravell is a filthy liar.

http://www.analitica.com.nyud.net:8090/BITBLIO/img/ravell.jpg http://www.radiomundial.com.ve.nyud.net:8090/yvke/files/img_noticia/t_abn_01_11_2007_marchaoposicionucv_08_622.jpg http://www.aporrea.org.nyud.net:8090/imagenes/gente/alberto-federico-ravell.jpg

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:21 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Remember this little plan that Ravell was involved in? From Machetera --
Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 12:22 PM by EFerrari
Venezuelan opposition plans F-16 attack

Translation: Machetera

September 10, 2008. - This Wednesday evening, the host of the television program La Hojilla, Mario Silva, broadcast a video that reveals a plan for a coup d’etat and assassination of President Hugo Chávez Frías, planned by retired and active military without command of National Bolivarian Armed Forces troops.

In the video one can hear telephone conversations between Army General Wilfredo Barroso Herrera, Vice Admiral Millán Millán and the General of the Aviation Brigade, Eduardo Baez Torrealba.

Those involved speak of taking Miraflores Palace and indicate, as their principal objective, directing all their efforts toward the location of “el señor,” referring to President Hugo Chávez. In one of the conversations held by the coup plotters, one can hear: “If he’s in Miraflores, we’ll direct our forces there.”


http://machetera.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/venezuelan-opposition-plans-f-16-attack/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. Oooooh, yeah! The opposition didn't have too much to say about this, all things considered.
Sure do remember it. They were very blunt, it would be impossible to deny it after hearing what they were planning. Shocking.

Can you imagine what would have happened here if this same situation played out during Bush's pResidency?
We would have never seen these guys again. They would have just stuffed them into a small private airplane and skipped the trial.

Here's something I just found which was written in the British paper, The Economist, regarding the original coup:
This is the same Alberto Federico Ravell who, according to the British business magazine, The Economist, was a key player in the 2002 attempted military coup in Venezuela when dictator-for-a-day Pedro Carmona had Chávez kidnapped at gunpoint and announced that he, instead, would now be president:
"...a group of top media executives rolled up in their limousines for a meeting with Mr Carmona, at the 19th-century Miraflores palace. All had been prominent critics of Mr Chavez’s alleged abuses of press freedom. Gustavo Cisneros, owner of the Venevision television channel and perhaps the country’s richest man, headed the group. Also present were Miguel Henrique Otero, publisher of the El Nacional group of newspapers, Alberto Federico Ravell, chief executive of Globovision (Venezuela’s answer to CNN) and Marcel Granier of the RCTV channel...

"They toasted the downfall of their adversary with 18-year-old Scotch. 'We can’t guarantee you the loyalty of the army,' a presidential guard heard one of them tell Mr Carmona, 'but we can promise you the support of the media.'

"But by the time the media barons met on Saturday, their whole plot was unravelling. Precisely what was said at the meeting is a matter for speculation. But Mr Carmona was overheard telling them: 'In your hands lie the safety and stability of the government.'

"In a desperate bid to hold on to power, the government’s media allies conspired to suppress all news of its difficulties. A regime that had seized power while waving the flag of press freedom spent its 36 hours in office doing its best to keep the truth from the public.

"The censorship which had begun the previous evening, with the first pro-Chavez riots, was tightened. Globovision, Venevision and RCTV blacked out the news completely, running videos of the previous day's inauguration, soothing music and requests to stay at home and remain calm..."
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/al-giordano/2005/07/vivanco-attacks-telesur-quotthe-airwaves-are-fallingquot

Odd piece to see published by such a stodgy, conservative paper.

Thanks for the memory jogging regarding the very RECENT assassination attempt. It's very interesting the Venezuelan media were so willing to forget this one so quickly, isn't it? What we got here was minimal, and probably completely dismissive, snide, contemptous, insinuating.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Wow, Judi Lynn, check this out. I found this little worm's CV.

He was the Director of the Communications Office under Perez -- who was drummed out of office by the Supreme Court for corruption, right? His whole career is in spin:

http://www.caracasnine.com/cgi-local/content.cgi?l=eng&n=3
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-09 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. This is really big, BIG news. He worked for the man who ordered El Caracazo Massacre
of 3,000 Venezuelans.

I have never known this. He handled his campaign then worked for him when he was elected. From his own info:
1973 Appointed communications director for the presidential campaign of Carlos Andrés Pérez.
1974 Upon being elected president, Carlos Andrés Pérez names him director of the national government’s Communications Office.
So he's accustomed to blocking urgent news, keeping it from the public. He did it for Carlos Andrés Pérez during the time he ordered his police to fire upon the protesters, and many police quit on the spot, then when he ordered his military to shoot them down. Amazing. There is a pattern, to be sure.

Anti-population, pro-oligarchy. No fuzzy area except in the minds of the uninformed!

This is so important I filed it away for future reference IMMEDIATELY.

Thanks for digging this out. So glad you did.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 02:47 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Places » Latin America Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC