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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:11 PM Original message |
Chavez takes moral high ground, closes “Bodies Revealed” |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. Chavez hits out at macabre display |
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Ex Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. it's their country, they can do what they want. n/t |
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moundsview (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Actually, it's his country and he can do what he wants. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Right. And all those millions of Venezuelans are just covering for him. |
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camera obscura (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. That's too bad. Those exhibits can be a great way for kids to really see science with their own eyes |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. dissected human cadavers "riding" a skateboard is ghoulish art |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
61. It's not ghoulish |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. And that would set you apart from these bodies |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
65. Not one bit ghoulish |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 01:26 AM Response to Reply #15 |
79. it is not ghoulish |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
72. Origins of Exhibited Cadavers Questioned (NPR | 2006) |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Thanks for this illuminating information. n/t |
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Seldona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
6. Moral highground? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. The provenance of the bodies on display is disputed |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. I didn't know about the controversy when I went to see it |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. There will be Chavez bashing articles for the next two weeks |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Remind me again why we hate him? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. He has a big mouth and kicks multinational butt? |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. He had fun mocking Dubya, but I always thought that was going after low hanging fruit, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. When I drill down, although he does have a big mouth |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. That the BFEE hates him I knew and yeah, I'm also surprised he's still alive, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. See my post down thread. |
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The abyss (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. OK – Now I get it! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. You're welcome. Just today we've had a right wing actress denounce him |
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The abyss (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Well spotted well stated! |
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jkappy (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. Worse than the lowest of horror movies. Hurrah for Chavez on |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I don't know very much about this. Do you have any links for us? n/t |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I found something in a quick google grab: |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. see post #15 ( warning; graphic art video ) |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Thank you. n/t |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I found more, written during the dust-up in Kansas City regarding the exhibit: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Oh, geeze. Thanks, Judi Lynn. This is really ugly. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. As I said, had I known all this, I wouldn't have gone to the exhibit |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. I hear you. I worked with cadavers a bit as an Anthro student |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
60. Yes, the president of a country should have sole power over what is in museums /nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. That's a gross misrepresentation. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Of what? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. What sort of thing? The display was lied through customs |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. Chavez - just another idiot that thinks he knows what morality is |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Do you have any idea what the issues are here? |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
50. Yes, I have a clue |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Right. The spin is much more important than the issues. |
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canoeist52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. When my family saw this show in Boston, |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Yeah, the books at the end were one of the more fascinating parts |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
14. It has "a little of the Buchenwald touch", as they used to say. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
22. I purposely |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. It's not. There's going to be hit piece after hit piece for the next two weeks |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I find it fascinating |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I do, too. The dissonance is why I read up on Chavez in the first place. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. I trust your opinion highly on most things |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I'm an atheist, myself. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Yeah, the Chicago boys love playing the shock doctrine down there |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. What seems to be happening is that Venezuela, Bolivia and Ecuador |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I'm glad, because they were our whipping boys for so long |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. people do have the right to see art but I agree. It was macabre. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
31. A lot of places have raised ethical questions about where the bodies are sourced |
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960 (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
40. Ah yes, that "moral decomposition" that is knowledge. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Yes. Let's support the Chinese government selling unknown bodies |
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960 (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. How long will you support Chavez? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. How long will you cart those straw men around? Don't your arms get tired? |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Well, he may have done this because of his religious beliefs - I don't know |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. The thing is, he can't do this for religious reasons. Venezuela is a secular democracy. n/t |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. We are too, but that didn't stop Dumbya from bringing it right into the oval office |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Sure. But Venezuela isn't the Bush US. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Yeah, I suspect you're right |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I don't believe Venezuela is some kind of socialist paradise. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
70. You mean when you vote for a socialist candidate you don't get ponies and unicorns? |
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tanngrisnir3 (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
56. The S.S Who Gives a Fuck is Docking at Pier Relevance. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
58. Consider that these shows are generally displays of executed Chinese prisoners. I agree. |
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IrishBuckeye (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. I didn't know about this. Bump this post. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Imagine being there and noticing that all the bodies are similar and have similar bone structure. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Thanks so much for being our Fair Witness. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. As usual, in trying to smear Chavez, more attention is drawn |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Imagine! A leader with socialist leanings caring about executed Chinese political prisoners! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. And when confronted with this horrible abuse, some people decide to blame |
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The abyss (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
59. Recommend for history and commentary! |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-09-09 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
71. Hugo Chavez wants the exhibit closed because he killed all the bodies in the show. |
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flyingobject (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
76. Consider: China's "mobile execution vans" |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. And once again, the US auto industry is behind the times. n/t |
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smitty (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
80. It's amusing to see so many posters go through all sorts of |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-10-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Amuse yourself even more by acqainting yourself with the facts. n/t |
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