Are Cuba's true martyrs a portent of a new 1989?

[naaman fletcher]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x33509

For weeks, the world has followed the drama of the Cuban prisoners of conscience, many of them black, who have started a chain of hunger strikes demanding the liberation of their fellow prisoners. Orlando Zapata Tamayo, a mason who was one of the 75 activists and journalists incarcerated in what is known as the Black Spring of 2003, died in February after a hunger strike that lasted more than 80 days. He was succeeded by psychologist Guillermo Farinas, who has now refused to eat for more than a month. Engineer Felix Bonne Carcasses has said that, if Mr. Farinas dies, he will replace him.

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They must have all been fascists, after all we learned the other day that Cuba is a true supporter of Human Rights.

[Mika]

1. Martyrs like Al Queda has martyrs.

Those who aid and abet terrorist murderers waging terra war against their own nation are scum.

Terry Nichols must be a hero American dissident by the same standard supporters of "the 75" use.

Scum.

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[naaman fletcher]

2. To be clear,

I truthfully don't know the cases of these 75. Are they journalists who simply opposed the Castro's? Or, as you say, were they actively supporting violent terrorism and such. If you provide links, I promise I will read them with an open mind.

[protocol rv]

3. Comparison to AL qaeda is quite illogical

These are men who are in jail holding hunger strikes - when they die, they do because they don't feed themselves, and nobody else dies. Al Qaida blows up people. Therefore your comparison is quite illogical.

Your comment is a gross distortion of reality.

Let me give you a little insight - the Soviet Union was a mighty power, which was brought down by a confluence of events. To be brought down, however, it required that the population within the Soviet Union believe that communism and the Soviet empire were worthless, and needed to be changed. The Cuban people have reached that point. They believe that communist regime you love so much is rotten to the core, corrupt, full of nepotism, with communist party members stealing and keeping all the large homes. And this is the reason why this regime you love so much is tottering.

Only the heavy cash infusions from Chavez keeps them propped up, like a mummy propped up by little wires.

But their time has come, my friend. These prisoners in Cuban prisons will continue on hunger strike, and the Europeans will put pressure to have the human rights situation improved - the Europeans are now understanding that their policy has to change, and their Parliament has already voted to put pressure on the Cuban regime.

And eventually Fidel Castro will die. This is a certainty. I swear to you, Fidel Castro will die. He can't avoid it. And when he does, the whole system will crumble. Raul Castro, if he survives the upheaval, will be like Gorbachev, and will start the process.

But once it starts, I'm sure the avalanche will sweep communism as it it were an old decrepit house facing one million tons of rocks coming down upon it. You have built nothing that endures, other than the memories in the people's mind that this system you love so much is sick, a perversion of the human mind, based on irrational economic formulae and repression of those who don't want to live without freedom. What you are attached to, will be put on a shelf together with Pol Pot, General Pinochet, the Somozas and the Duvaliers, Idi Amin, and the South African Apartheid regime. And this is why those brave men who are on hunger strike scare you so much, and why you accuse them of being like Al Qaida. You know the end is near, taste it.

[Mika]

4. Just like Al Queda their network has taken down a passenger airliner.

The 75 were getting money from Luis Posada and Santiago Alverez, which was being transported under the diplomatic protection of US diplomatic employees at the US interests section in Havana.

It is you who doesn't get it. They are associates of, and on the payroll of wanted terrorists who have set off bombs killing people, and blowing up an in-air Cuban passenger airliner killing all aboard - mostly youths on their way to a sporting event.


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And the mewling DU know nothing Cubaphobes actually defend these cretins.

Scum.

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[AlphaCentauri]

5. I always wonder how is that all communist countries discover

that there is corruption in their governments and in most capitalist countries including the US nobody notice that fraud and corruption are part of the system it self.

Can we say that the US citizens are waking up and losing their faith in their government organizing tea parties, militias and other ultra right wing extremist groups or is just that the capitalist doctrine wouldn't allow to switch to another economic system.

let say like communism allowed to switch to capitalism in the soviet union.