Submarine cable does not involve expanded network access in Cuba

[ChangoLoa]

A submarine fiber optic cable between Cuba and Venezuela, which should begin operating by mid 2011 will not mean expanded access to info-communication services in the Caribbean island, reported state-run newspaper Granma.

"The submarine cable will improve quality of the info-communications services but does not necessarily mean an expansion of the service," a spokesman of the ruling Communist Party told the Cuban newspaper, as reported by Efe.

The existence of the fiber optic cable will allow Cuba to multiply by 3,000 times the current Cuba's connection capacity with overseas hubs.


http://english.eluniversal.com/2010/11/03/en_eco_art_submarine-cable-does_03A4689651.shtml

[dipsydoodle]

1. Whilst on that subject

would someone in the USA please google and yahoo "holidays in Cuba" and tell me what happens. I'm told that the search will produce little if any info whereas the same search in Europe produces pages and pages and pages.............

[Judi Lynn]

3. I searched for "holidays in Cuba" and holidays in Cuba for each one.

Google "holidays in Cuba" has 11,300 entries in 60 pages with 595 results displayed.
Google holidays in Cuba has 3,950,000 entries in 66 pages, with 652 results displayed. (without quotes around the term)

Yahoo "holidays in Cuba" 87,400,000 results 62 pages containing 611 results displayed.
Yahoo holidays in Cuba 872,000 results 74 pages containing 738 results displayed.

That's what I got, although I have to admit, I may not have a clear grasp of the idea. :hi:

[dipsydoodle]

5. I'd read somewhere

that the search would lock out in the USA because Google and co. didn't want to upset your government. :shrug:

Thanks Judi.

:hi:

[Judi Lynn]

9. Wouldn't be surprised at anything google might do! They are in their own universe.

Welcome. :hi:

[Bacchus39]

13. nope, and we use "vacation" instead of holiday with the google results being numerous as well n/

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[Billy Burnett]

2. Hold it. The submarine cable connection is a primary trunk.

A submarine cable does not include the necessary terrestrial infrastructure too.
It will take some time to upgrade the entire communications infrastructure in Cuba.
Cuba's telephone infrastructure won't support broadband, and it would be extremely wasteful to install phone modem slow service node networks.
Too bad that the US extraterritorial sanctions continue to slow things down (but it does give the gusanos preciosos time to blame Castro a while longer).
W/o the US embargo it would make it possible for US companies to get contracts to upgrade their networks.

Never mind the details though - blame Castros, blame commies, blame any and all in Cuba - cuz they can't snap their fingers and create broadband infrastructure instantly.


Also see ...

US Broadband Penetration Drops to 25th Worldwide
http://www.websiteoptimization.com/bw/1001/

[Judi Lynn]

4. Ha ha ha. OMG. Yikes! Thanks, Billy! n/t

[dipsydoodle]

6. Uk's not doing too good on that list

and I couldn't see the USA there at all. :shrug:

I suppose it was almost inevitable that Liechenstein, Monaco and Luxenbourg would be tops given their diminutive sizes.

[Judi Lynn]

8. At least UK was visitble on the chart! Embarrassing for us invisble USians! n/t

[ChangoLoa]

7. Who is blaming Castro?

Or you're just anticipating?
:shrug:

[Billy Burnett]

10. I've participated in several threads on this topic. Blame Castro/commies is SOP.

So, anticipation is not unrealistic.

[ChangoLoa]

11. To anticipate a certain ground for a discussion before anyone talks

is not too far from (re)creating that particular ground.

[Billy Burnett]

12. Well, I have to admit a certain knee-jerk reaction to Cuba/internet threads.

I guess I was trying to use some reasoning and truth to cut the mountain of lies off at the pass. ;)

http://mw2.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anticipate

[Bacchus39]

14. in other words, access and content will still be limited by the Cuban government n/t

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[Billy Burnett]

15. You mean in your words.

I'm sure they'll be many other words, like yours, written about the iron fisted dicktatership of the evil Dr Castro working around the clock busily at the switches of information.

That's why Cubans are so uninformed, and, by contrast, why Americans are so fully informed :eyes:

[Judi Lynn]

16. Surely! We're #1, Billy Burnett. USA, USA.

http://peach.rlsl.org.nyud.net:8090/files/2008/07/america-sees-world.jpg

[Peace Patriot]

17. Venezuela Helps Cuba Overcome US-Imposed Internet Restrictions

Merida, November 4th, 2010 (Venezuelanalysis.com) – Cuba and Venezuela will jointly install a fibre-optic submarine cable between the two nations, a move which will “revolutionise telecommunications” according to Cuban Information and Communications Minster Ramiro Valdez yesterday.

The governments want to begin installation of the cable this January and hope to finish it by the second half of 2011. It will connect Cuba with both Venezuela and then with Jamaica, and involves an investment of US$ 70 million.

The cable represents the first possibility for Cuba to have relatively fast internet. Valdez highlighted the importance of “breaking the historical dependence by in telecommunications”.

Currently all Cuban internet is via satellite, meaning it is slow, limited, and expensive. There is an optical-fibre connection between Cancun, Mexico and Miami, US, that passes 32 kilometres from Havana but the U.S denies Cuba access to it.

Venezuelan engineer Carlos Orfila explained, “If the blockade (by the US against Cuba) didn’t exist, connecting Cuba would cost some US $500,000, but it can’t be done because the Cuban companies never receive permission from the U.S State Department.”

The new cable however, passes almost entirely through international waters, but, “because of certain national and economic borders through which the United States attempts to impose its conditions, the length of the cable had to be extended by about 100 kilometres,” Orfila said.

(MORE)

http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/5761
(Fair Use License)
(my emphases)

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Tell me what the U.S. justification for this is! Oh yeah, "freedom of speech" in Cuba!

:sarcasm:

I'm going to post this as its own OP because I'm so sick of the rightwing, El Unireversal propaganda that keeps being posted here, so like the rightwing propaganda we see daily filling our own corpo-fascist press to the exclusion of all else.

:puke:

[Billy Burnett]

18. Thanks for posting this.

Looking forward to a thread on this. Do it! I'll be there.

(FYI, I worked w/an ngo in Cuba installing some infranet router systems connecting schools to a research database in the mid 90's. I do know a little about Cuba's wired infrastructure.)