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Derechos Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 03:49 PM
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The absurd lows of the presidential campaign in Peru
Edited on Sun May-29-11 03:57 PM by Derechos
Edited because I didn't like the title.

Jaime Bayly, national Peruvian media figure based in Miami, tries to support Keiko's candidacy by attacking the undemocratic Inca empire (read Humala) unlike the Spanish monarchy at that time that saved Peruvians from all ending up like Evo Morales. Mr. Bayly has been an active member in the media campaign against Humala's candidacy, especially in their effort to tie him to his brother's failed coup attempt during the Toledo government.

Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SUo1m1NtKE

Video discussing the media campaign agianst Humala - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCM3F1egZKo&feature=player_embedded



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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 04:17 PM
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1. That guy is scum, isn't he? Good grief. Hideous. He's an old friend of Colombia's Pres. Santos,
Edited on Sun May-29-11 04:22 PM by Judi Lynn
has been close to him for a very long time.

As a speaker, he comes across as simply slimy. I'm surprised his followers don't see that super trashiness right in front of their eyes. He doesn't hide it well at all.

On edit:
He's aiming his comments right at the bottom feeders, the racists, and the provincial, self-centered bigots. You'd expect to see something like him at a freak show.

He's in his element, trying to promote Keiko Fujimori.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 08:03 AM
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2. I just hope they have a good system for counting the votes in Peru.
That seems to be the difference in Latin America, which has actually worse corpo-fascist media than we do. In the countries with good leftist leaders, the citizens and international election monitoring groups have done awesome work in creating honest, transparent election systems. Thus, it's possible for the grass roots groups, the labor unions and other activists for the majority to overcome the combo of USAID money that is pouring into rightwing candidates and causes all over Latin America (yup, our tax money), corporate and other private money and the rancid corpo-fascist press, and win elections. We don't have that possibility here, with ES&S/Diebold 'counting' all the votes with 'TRADE SECRET' code--but they do have that possibility in most of Latin America, and it really shows: leftist governments elected in Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Paraguay, Uruguay, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala--despite every effort of the U.S. government and allied fascists to prevent this from happening.

I have no information on Peru's vote counting system, but with U.S. "free trade for the rich" operating the country, Diebold & brethren might have invaded the system--and, if they have, could easily weight the urban vote against Humala. (Say, urban areas go 55% against Humala. They would add 5% to 10% to that, and it would look plausible in those areas.) That's where they would likely first invade--in urban areas. My sense is that Peru still has a paper ballot system, but I'm not sure. They could also have an apparent paper ballot system but with central electronic tabulation, where the vote can be fiddled (as probably occurred in Mexico in 2005). If it's a real vote count--total paper ballot, top to bottom--it will be much more difficult for the rightwing to cheat (requires overt ballot stealing, intimidation, dirty tricks, etc.--much more observable).*

I wish the Carter Center were monitoring this election (and had set up the system). I don't know that they aren't monitoring it--but I haven't heard anything about it. They, a) don't permit 'TRADE SECRET' code (or private control of the voting system), and b) have very good, on-the-ground procedures for the kinds of fraud that may occur in a paper ballot system.

With the rightwing using racism--the nastiest of tactics--intimidation, ballot box stuffing and violence are expectable. The OAS has done pretty good election monitoring in the past (but not in Mexico) and so has the EU. But OAS election monitoring was recently compromised by the U.S. State Department, in Haiti. (Fraudulent election monitoring committee using the OAS name, set up by H. Clinton). So I don't know whether to trust the OAS any more. The EU also has corporate interests at stake in Latin American elections, but the EU election monitoring group has no stain on it, that I know of. (Can't recall if they also did Mexico in '05. I think they did. So that's one stain.)

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*(Venezuela has an electronic system but it is OPEN SOURCE CODE--anyone may review the code by which the votes are tabulated--and they do a whopping 55% audit (comparison of ballots to electronic totals)--more than five times the minimum needed to detect fraud in an electronic system. In the U.S., half the states do NO AUDIT AT ALL and the other half do only a 1% audit, while using 'TRADE SECRET' CODE. Our system is made-to-order for fraud--and it's now run basically by ONE private corporation, ES&S/Diebold, which has an 80% monopoly. Guaranteed right-wing scumbag Congress, for one thing. Venezuela's system was set up by the Carter Center, with participation of all parties. Though it is electronic, it is virtually fraud-proof. No system is perfect, but, as electronic systems go, Venezuela's is the best in the world--and ours is the worst. Small wonder that they have a kickass, "New Deal" type, leftist government, and free health care and free education through college).
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Derechos Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:46 AM
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3. The EU is sending electoral observers to Peru for the 2nd round
Trujillo, May 22 (ANDINA). Two of more than 70 European Union observers who will oversee the second round of the presidential elections in Peru arrived in the northern city of Trujillo on Saturday to meet with local authorities ahead of the June 5 run off vote.

http://www.andina.com.pe/ingles/Noticia.aspx?Id=2PPYNSz/tEA=

The Carter Center was there in 2000 during the presidential elections between Fujimori and Toledo which were marred by fraud, led to wide-spread violent protest and international condemnation. Fujimori eventually fled Peru that same year leading to an interim government under Paniagua and Toldeo was elected the following year in 2011 and inaugurated that July. Fujimori was convicted in 2009 for human rights violations and is currently serving a 25 year sentence - http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/08/world/fg-fujimori8. If Keiko wins, it is widely believed that she will find a way to release him, a prospect that terrifies human rights advocates within Peru and internationally. Fujimori's conviction was a watershed moment for human rights in the Americas and his release would be a huge step backwards down the path towards impunity.

She has also discussed plans to regulate the internet "to protect the children," reinstitute forced military conscriptions, at least for those with limited economic resources, a practice that led to wide-spread abuses in the past, and will most likely continue Garcia's war on indigenous opposition to the operation of extractive industries on their lands. She is the national security candidate and I don't doubt she will also continue trying to link indigenous opposition to drug traffickers and terrorism.


Humala and Keiko held their debate last night. You can find video of the debate on the Peruanista website - http://peruanista.wordpress.com/2011/05/29/videos-debate-ollanta-humala-keiko-fujimori-elecciones-peru-2011/

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