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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 06:57 PM
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Peasant dies during eviction operation of a finca in Barinas (Spanish)
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 09:31 PM
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1. Why?
Why are government troops killing peasants on behalf of rich landowners?
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 09:38 PM
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2. not sure if its privately held or was expropriated n/t
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:38 PM
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3. You are being suckered
Edited on Mon May-30-11 10:45 PM by rabs


(Edit to add a rec -- readers should see falsehoods that show up.)


If you read the posted story you will learn that:

-- Nowhere does it say that police (or government troops as you say) shot the man.

-- In fact, police general Giuseppe Cacioppo Oliveri, commander of police in Barinas, dismissed that it was the police force that had fired the fatal shot. He said the police force was only carrying anti-riot equipment.

-- The police were trying to evict "pisatarios" (squatters) from a finca (hacienda).

-- The police on Monday morning talked with the campesinos and told them of the order that they had to leave. In the afternoon, when police went to check whether the campesinos had left, the campesinos resisted, the police fired tear gas to drive them out.

--The wife of the man killed told police that she had seen the OWNER of the finca WITH A WEAPON IN HIS HAND.

-- According to the article, there is no official report on the incident yet. So the OP's claim that he was "shot and killed by police" is unconfirmed, and tendentious.






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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 11:18 PM
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4. two peasant activists killed in Barinas
The two murdered activists, José Joel Torres Leves and Agustín Gamboa Duran, were members of the Ezequial Zamora National Peasant's Front in Barinas. On the 12 April 2011 they were forcibly taken from their houses during the night by six armed men wearing masks, who then smuggled them into a pickup truck. The two men's bodies were then found on the 14 April under a bridge in the surrounding area, bringing the number of peasants murdered in Venezuela since 2001 to 250 - with no convictions to date.

In a statement released by the Revolutionary Current of Bolivar and Zamora, the organization attributed the murders to members of Venezuela's state security forces, commenting that the way in which the abductors were dressed, as well as the vehicles and arms that they carried, were reminiscent of state security personnel - particularly those such as DIM, GAES, CICPC and SEBIN, who conduct counter-insurgency activities against guerrillas at the border. Criticising the use of old practises within Venezuela's security forces, the statement continues:


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CICPC is the same police organization that was there at the most recent killing of the campesinos. article comes from Venanalysis too. the police only had antiriot gear. good one.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28584307/reactionaries-kill-two-peasant-activists-in-venezuela.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 12:28 AM
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6. Just saw your article, started to read it was stopped by the first paragraph. Did you see it?
More comrades have been killed by anti-socialist reactionaries in Venezuela. Although Hugo Chavez has the support of the masses, rogue security forces are still killing politicial activists. This is an ongoing intimidation campaign to stop the popular Venezuelan Land Reform Law of 2001. However, as radical peasants state: "We will not allow the fascists...ti stamp out the development of the revolutionary social movements."
Are you saying that the government is sending out anti-socialist reactionaries to clobber campesinos?

Doesn't seem natural, actually, since the current government is working on a mixed economy, including socialist programs.


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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 12:22 AM
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5. My Gosh. If anyone wanted to blame the right person it most surely would be the victim's loved one.
It's just not going to happen that she would pivot and point at someone she DIDN'T believe was involved.

How, and WHY would anyone render such an odd interpretation of a short, simple article, anyway? Damned peculiar.

By the way, I recommended, and discovered YOUR rec. had already been vaporized. We have a haunted forum!


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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 01:01 AM
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7. Presunto desalojo de terrenos deja un muerto y tres policías heridos
Presunto desalojo de terrenos deja un muerto y tres policías heridos
Martes, 31 Mayo 2011

Una comisión de la Policía Científica se trasladó al lugar de los hechos para recabar información.

Richard Mendoza
Richard.258@hotmail.com
EL DIARIO

El presunto desalojo de unos “pisantes de tierras” la mañana de ayer lunes en Socopó municipio Sucre habría sido la causa que deja el saldo negativo de una persona muerta y tres funcionarios heridos de la Policía Estadal de Barinas.
Según versiones aportadas por el Comisario Humberto Ramírez, del Cicpc región Barinas, la víctima fatal de este hecho respondía al nombre de Rafael Ignacio Villegas de 44 años, quien al parecer era una de las personas que ocupaba uno de los terrenos ubicados en el Hato “Los Caimitos” del barrio Santa Bárbara Bendita de Socopó.
Sobre los tres funcionarios policiales que resultaran heridos, se conoció extraoficialmente que fueron llevados a un centro médico de Socopó.
Por su parte el Comandante de la Policía Estadal Cacciopo Oliveri, informó que una comisión de este organismo de seguridad, estuvo presente en los predios sin el uso de armas y de bombas lacrimógenas.
Hasta la tarde de ayer una comisión del Cicpc se hizo presente en lugar para esclarecer las verdaderas causas que originaron el triste desenlace.

http://diariodebarinas.com/portal/?p=38350

Google translation:
Richard Mendoza
Richard.258 @ hotmail.com
THE JOURNAL

The alleged eviction of a "land Pisante" Monday morning in Sucre municipality Socopó would have been the cause to stop the negative of a person dead and three wounded officers of the state police in Barinas.
According to versions made by Commissioner Humberto Ramirez, Cicpc region of Barinas, the fatal victim of that fact by the name of Rafael Ignacio Villegas, 44, who apparently was one of the people who occupied one of the land located in the Hato " caimitos "in the neighborhood of Santa Barbara Bendita Socopó.
On the three police officers were injured, it was learned unofficially that were taken to a medical center Socopó.
For its part the state police commander Cacciopo Oliveri, said a commission enforcement agencies, was present on the premises without the use of weapons and tear gas.
Until yesterday afternoon a committee of Cicpc was present in place to clarify the real causes of the sad ending.

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