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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 12:22 AM
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So, hillary did not get to give her little speech ...



... at the Honduras/OAS farce today.

It was all Venezuela's fault :rofl:

FM Maduro of Venezuela introduced a clause that said the golpistas should be tried and punished as part of the resolution allowing Honduras back into the group.

That caused Insulza to call a closed-door meeting that pushed back the voting by three hours. The meeting was limited to Insulza, Maduro and FM María Angela Holguín of Colombia.

As a result of the delay, hillary was forced to cancel her speech. boo hoo ... she must be even more pissed at Chavez and Maduro.

The closed-door meeting resulted in the clause not being included in the resolution. Had it been, it's probable that the Honduran delegation would have walked out, and the OAS would have been left with huevo (egg) all over its worthless face.

Maduro later explained that Venezuela voted for the resolution in the end but with reservations because of the necessity of bringing to justice those who perpetrated the golpe. He said it had not been possible to introduce that in the resolution but that those points are now on the table. He called on the hemispheric community to ensure that "sooner, rather than later, justice be done in Honduras."

(Above info from a Spanish-language story in the newspaper El Comercio of Lima, Peru.)

(Ecuador did vote against the resolution for the same reason, the only nation to do so.)








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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 08:55 AM
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1. Bet that went down very hard, and bitterly. She probably never expected to be denied.
Maduro is a tremendous presence.

I still remember the dirty action against him by George W. Bush when Maduro was kept from a flight in the U.S., just for the hell of it, pretending he was confused for a terrorist, or some such idiocy. He was very well known at the time.

If only the golpistas would end up having to confront the public for what they have done against it in overturning the results of their honest election of Manuel Zelaya as their president. There will never be true justice until these criminals have had to face the legitimate consequences, like grown men.
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 11:26 AM
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3. I wondered about what happened



Events where the U.S. Secretary of State is to speak usually go like clockwork.

Will be interesting to see what actually transpired, but one can assume the cell phone calls from Maduro to Caracas, Holguin to Bogota, and Insulza to his boss hillary were intense.

Suspect that the surprise Maduro dumped on Insulza (Honduran golpistas should be tried and punished) may have been to humiliate hillary in reprisal for the sanctions last week on PVDSA.

But even if that was NOT the intention, hillary wound up canceling her speech, which does not happen very often at international forums, if ever. It may have been that she had other business to attend, or that she was furious that she would not be in the spotlight.

I would go with the latter.

Btw, the amendment Maduro wanted included in the resolution would have meant the golpista military (as well as Michiletti, Facusse and company) would have been brought before justice. And that would have set the stage for a potential golpe against Pepe Lobo.






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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 09:41 AM
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2. Thanks for the report! Did you see that Xiomara is going to run in 2013?
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 11:34 AM
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4. I had seen Xiomara mentioned as a possible candidate



in a Spanish-language report. Think mentioned it to you a few days ago. But the SOSW report indicates that it is a done deal, that she will run in the next election.

If she does, she would have the FNRP solidly behind her, as she often was in the front of protests/demonstrations/marches against the Micheletti golpista regime.

Guess she will have to wait to see what the lobo government does in amending the constitution. Would not be surprising that somehow she would be banned from running.

(Agree on very good SOSW scene setter on the trip home.)
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 05:38 PM
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5. VIVA Democracy!
"The worst enemy of humanity is U.S. capitalism. That is what provokes uprisings like our own, a rebellion against a system, against a neoliberal model, which is the representation of a savage capitalism. If the entire world doesn't acknowledge this reality, that nation states are not providing even minimally for health, education and nourishment, then each day the most fundamental human rights are being violated."
----Bolivian Reform President Evo Morales


FDR said much the same thing in 1944 with his Economic Bill of Rights.
Bolivian President Evo Morales sounds more like FDR than anyone in the Democratic Party Leadership today.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 01:32 PM
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6. The US right-wing has worked feverishly to remove him starting during his 1st Presidential campaign,
and they'll probably never give up.

The right-wing also launched a hate campaign, and conspired to overthrow him in a coup, even asking for the help from General Smedley Butler to do it violently which he strongly repudiated. They have nothing but murderous hatred for people looking out for their fellow man/woman.

That's ALL they have: seething hatred for the human race, and every intention of subjugating it, keeping it subservient to their own interests and pleasures.

They've been hard at work against Evo Morales from before the first of his Presidency. Sick.
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