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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 09:33 AM
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Are good times in Argentina for real or an illusion?
Reporting from Buenos Aires—
In Argentina, soybean production is flying high. That means another banner year for farm equipment salesman Carlos Meniavere.

His company, Apache, expects sales of its planters and harvesters to increase 20% this year over 2010. Local demand for his machines, costing $75,000 and up, has risen sharply. So have foreign sales. Apache's relatively low manufacturing costs have led to deals with buyers in Brazil, Venezuela, Russia and other markets.

"We're going to sell 400 units this year and export to 10 countries. It's a good year in every sense of the word," said Meniavere, whose company is based in Las Parejas, about 250 miles west of the capital in Argentina's farm belt.

Times are good in much of Argentina, where farm and manufacturing booms have set the economy on fire the last two years. Incomes are rising. Poverty is in decline. Argentines are buying cars and taking foreign vacations.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-argentina-economy-20110802,0,991177.story

A bit of comic relief.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 05:22 PM
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1. Ah, the joys of leftist government! i love it! High employment! Prosperity for all!
Businesses actually producing useful things and selling them. Everybody paying their dues, contributing to social programs and the good of the country. People feeling happy, secure, hopeful about the future, ambitious, enterprising.

So much better than U.S. corps and banksters ripping everybody off, looting the treasury, looting "the commons," destroying labor unions, not paying taxes, killing for oil.

Argentina's prosperity is directly attributable to its LEFTIST government, and its past and current LEFTIST presidents, Nestor Kirchner and Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, in strong alliance with the LEFTIST Chavez government in Venezuela (which initially helped them out of ruinous World Bank/IMF debt--which had been incurred by ruinous rightwing governments that turned Argentina into a basket case--the most "neo-liberal" ravaged country of them all), the LEFTIST Lula da Silva/Dilma Rousseff government in Brazil and the LEFTIST alliance all over South America (and into Central America).

LEFTISTS = prosperity, fairness, social justice, optimism.

RIGHTISTS = ruin.

Things are sometimes just that simple--if you don't have corporate-run 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines, that is. If you do, you gotta take care of that first. Then you elect LEFTISTS.

Um, REAL leftists, not fake ones who bow to RW blackmail. Men and women with the strength of old oak trees, like the Kirchners. I was going to say "spines of steel"--which certainly conveys the strength I see in such leaders--leaders who would say, with FDR: "Organized money hates me--and I welcome their hatred!" But it's more than that, it's an ancient kind of wisdom, rooted in the earth, and branching out in a splendid, inclusive canopy. It's alive! Democracy is alive in Latin America!

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I was puzzled by "A bit of comic relief"--but I presume you mean the title of the article (--wasn't sure 'til I reluctantly gave the bastards a free click)--that the corpo-fascist press (in this case the L.A. Times) views prosperity created by LEFTISTS to be "an illusion" or maybe "an illusion"? Who knows? Could be, I guess. People working, making things, buying things. Poverty receding. it could be considered an '"illusion" to those who lust to rip it off with ponzi mortgage schemes and vast looting of the public treasury. People working would be an affront to these lazy bums, in any case. Do they dream of actually working?

Argentina and most of South America has given the finger to these Wall Street assholes, and the assholes are now threatening "capital flight." Get this...

"At the same time (that we are planning to try to crash this economy with "capital flight"*), the competitive advantages that Argentine companies such as Apache have enjoyed over the last decade are evaporating because of rising labor costs."

*(My note.)

LOL! You're right. It's a hoot. Demonic but funny. I would like to see John Stewart take it on.

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How having money in your pocket is an illusion. How being able to feed your children is an illusion. How working for a living is an illusion. And how Wall Street is not an illusion. Cuz...he-he...with the magic wand of "capital flight," we can take it all away! (Evil grin.)

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South America is investing in itself, though--and getting plenty of capital from elsewhere, from countries that are taking advantage of the new "level playing field" in South America, created by LEFTIST governments, where U.S. corporations have been told they can go fuck themselves if they don't play nice and pay their dues.

Oh, really, I do love it.

Pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, out of the pit that the Clintonites and the Bushwhacks had thrown them into, with a little help from their friends--did Argentina. Unity. Cooperation. Social justice. Oak-like LEFTIST leaders. Prosperity for all.





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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 05:46 PM
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2. Correct.
I am confident that our "leaders" would be happy to take credit for such "illusory" gains, had they managed to do half as well.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 06:12 PM
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3. LOL again! They actually quote Goldman Sachs!
And not a single quote--NOT ONE!--from the Kirchner government or from any of the thousands of people now with decent jobs, or from labor leaders, or farm workers, or the elderly or students. A bunch of worthless, lazy bum prognosticators are quoted.

So disgusting! But, hey, GO ARGENTINA! What a turnaround! It is totally amazing what LEFTIST government can do when they IGNORE THE RIGHT!

And these financial sharks that they are quoting--the ones who are now inflicting us with their "shock and awe" crash--are LYING about why Argentines all now have decent jobs and business is booming and what it means for Argentina's future and the future of the region. Strict regulation of financial markets, RESPONSIBLE money management, fair taxation, help for the poor--bootstrapping, education--decent wages, and then, as people starting getting money into their pockets, businesses have customers and want to start making things again. THAT is the formula for prosperity--and if financial sharks like Goldman Sachs are not permiitted to LOOT IT ALL, it continues. If LEFTISTS stay in power, in continues. If rightwing fucks get into power, it's OVER.

Lordy, even Henry Ford knew this. What liars and looters these Wall Street operatives are! First thing on their minds--cutting wages! Second thing on their mind--cutting subsidies for the poor! The VERY FIRST thing they want to do is LOOT the money going to people who actually WORK--the true creators of wealth.

I've been thinking about it too much, so it's not funny any more. Too bad. It's best treated as the absurdity that it is.
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