Peru and Ecuador share information, accelerate completion of demining border

[Judi Lynn]

Peru and Ecuador share information, accelerate completion of demining border
PeruthisWeek.com
August 9, 2011

Peruvian and Ecuadorian Military specialists will exchange information to complete the process of deactivating landmines in the border, according to Diego Ribadeneira, Ecuador’s ambassador to Peru.

The diplomat explained that a workshop to coordinate strategies, in order to complete clearance of mines in the Amazon border and meet the goal of total eradication of landmines will take place in the Peruvian cities of Chiclayo and Lima, this week.

Due to a border dispute that led to conflicts between both countries, most recently in 1995, many mines were laid and after the signing of a peace agreement in 1998, Lima and Quito agreed to the removal of mines and cement bilateral relations.

Almost 13 years after the peace agreement in Brasilia, the demining work not yet been completed because of the difficulty of removing them, the rugged geographical area and the investment required.

More:
http://www.livinginperu.com/news-319-Peru-and-Ecuador-share-information-accelerate-completion-of-demining-border/

[Peace Patriot]

1. Now I ask you, why would someone un-recommend this thread. It makes no sense.

I found out that it had been unrecc'd when I want to recommend it. I recommended it because, a) it's something I knew nothing about (the mining of these border areas); b, I'm interested in all peaceful dispute resolution efforts in LatAm (because I think that it is a rightwing tactic to stir up disputes, in service to a U.S. policy of preventing unity and cooperation among LatAm countries (there have been several examples of this), and c) because I'm interested in the policies of the new leftist president of Peru, Ollanta Humala.

What could be the reasons for un-recommending this?

RW stupidity--that's always a possibility, since RW posts here so often are either stupid (lame-brained, uninformed) or stupid-making (trying to push some RW propaganda "talking point" --pushing disinformation).

RW stupidity--they just don't like peace, and anything that smacks of peace--and de-mining a border area might prevent children, hikers, hunters, fisher folk, dogs and other animals from getting blown up, and they are against preventing that because people should learn to live in a mine-filled world so they feel fear, so they are manipulable on war and security spending and this helps fascists gain power.

RW stupidity--they don't mind government spending for boffo war materials and war, but are against all other government spending; these countries spending money on de-mining is socialism. that money belongs in pockets of people who can afford their own metal detectors and sniff-dogs if they go anywhere.

RW stupidity--they don't want to know about anything that's not in the Bible.

Any other reasons you can think of?

I can think of one more: whoever un-recced this thread is well aware that the U.S. and their RW operatives in LatAm want to prevent peaceful cooperation among LatAm countries and are paid to un-rec threads on a list of issues that they are given. I've seen so many unreasonable un-rec's in the LatAm forum that this has definitely occurred to me. Un-recc'ing doesn't do much, but it does prevent a thread from making it to the pages seen by more people. It may be just one small effort of many, in a larger program to influence discussion of LatAm issues.

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I was just discussing the issue of RW "divide and conquer" tactics in LatAm, and its possible relationship to U.S. policy in another thread. We've seen the Bushwhacks stoke up a dispute almost to the point of war (U.S/Colombia, vs Ecuador/Venezuela). And we've seen the U.S. pour $7 BILLION in military aid into one side of Colombia's 70 year long civil war, literally like pouring gasoline on a fire. And, recently, we've seen RW billionaire Auguste Pinera, president of Chile, undo all the work of the previous president, leftist Michele Batchelet, on settling a 100 year old conflict with Bolivia over Bolivia's access to the sea. These and other instances of stoking disputes seem quite perverse, at first.--and they are, indeed, perverse. But the more you see of it the more you realize that it is a TACTIC with BENEFICIARIES. Bolivia is on the U.S. shit list for throwing the DEA out of Bolivia and legalizing the coca leaf, and for the leftist government of Evo Morales surviving the Bushwhack coup attempt in 2008. How did he and his government survive it? South American UNITY--the quick action and peaceful cooperation among South American countries (with Chile's Batchelet in the lead) to back up Morales and end the white separatist insurrection.

I think this is a very important U.S. goal in LatAm--disunity. And I think it's quite conceivable that LatAm unity is on a covert list of issues that U.S. or other disinformationists are supposed to discourage.

There was a RW 'meme' going around for a while that interpretted actions of Brazil's leftist president, Lula da Silva, with regard to Venezuela's leftist president, Hugo Chavez, as self-interested on Lula's part, that Lula was just satisfying business interests in his own country and building up Brazil as the "big man" of the continent. This was during a period of many meetings between Lula and Chavez--once a month for quite a while--in which they were clearly devising policies of benefit to both countries and the region, among them unity and cooperation and having each others' backs. Their alliance manifested in many ways over the last half decade. I won't go into all of it but it was very intense and very important to the region. During this time, I also noticed the corpo-fascist press fawning over Lula and his "Brazil miracle." These "analysts" either had no clue what was really going on or understood it quite well and were trying to split off Lula from alliance with Chavez and others, in the way that the corpo-fascist press creates "celebrities." This was just one more tactic in regard to this particular U.S. corporate/war profiteer agenda item. It didn't work. Lula stayed loyal to Chavez and to LatAm unity through it all. And I don't know if it was part of an official covert op--feeding the "disunity" angle to the corpo-fascist press, dissing reports of unity and cooperation on blogs. But it wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Judi Lynn]

2. Your comments reminded me I forgot an enormous possibility that loomed into view with Humala's win.

Help in establishing some corridor to the Pacific!

I'm starting to wonder if it was the dawning awareness that Ollanta Humala was looking like a fit for the Presidency when Alan Garcia made his move to allow Bolivia some small portion of Peruvian land for their own use. It wasn't that long ago, when you consider it.

http://static.guim.co.uk.nyud.net:8090/sys-images/Business/Pix/pictures/2010/10/20/1287590540768/Alan-Garcia-Evo-Morales-005.jpg
Peru gives landlocked Bolivia a piece of Pacific coast to call its own
Peruvian leader, Alan García, signs deal with President Evo Morales allowing Bolivia to build port on small stretch of sand
Rory Carroll, Latin America correspondent guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 20 October 2010 17.55 BST

It might be a strip of sand without even a jetty but a small stretch of the Pacific coast now harbours Bolivia's dream of regaining a coast and becoming a maritime nation.

The landlocked Andean country has won access to a desolate patch of Peru's shoreline, fuelling hopes that Bolivia will once again have a sea to call its own.

President Evo Morales signed a deal yesterday with his Peruvian counterpart, Alan García, allowing Bolivia to build and operate a small port about 10 miles from Peru's southern port of Ilo.

The accord, sealed with declarations of South American brotherhood, was a diplomatic poke at Chile, the neighbour that seized Bolivia's coast and a swath of Peruvian territory in the 1879-84 war of the Pacific.

More:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/20/peru-gives-bolivia-pacific-shore

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Humala's getting off to a fantastic start in undertaking this landmine removal project. Too bad it took this long, isn't it?

Don't know how many times we've seen a tiny cluster here trying to create the misperception that Lula da Silva had no respect for Hugo Chavez whatsoever. Simply absurd, and contemptible. Pure dishonesty.