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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 01:23 AM
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Colombia President scraps spy agency after scandals
Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos has officially dissolved the country's intelligence agency, the DAS, after a series of scandals.

Mr Santos said most DAS staff were being transferred to other government departments.

The organisation has been mired in controversy for years.

Last month its former head, Jorge Noguera, was sentenced to jail for 25 years for collaborating with paramilitary death squads.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-15533091

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Derechos Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 05:34 AM
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1. Amazing.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 10:10 AM
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2. Okay, who's Cliff Claven?
As for DAS, the trouble is, once someone creates a spying and murder network like that, it is very difficult if not impossible to "dismantle" it unless you get at the real perps--the master criminals who put it in place, in this case the Bush Junta and its local crime boss, Alvaro Uribe.

Notice that all the master criminals of the Bush Junta and at least the 'made men' among their local agents--notably, Uribe--are still at large. Uribe was very active, for instance, in the recent by-elections in Colombia, and though he had his ass wiped in Colombia in general, did manage to install a lot of Uribites in local offices. He intends to 'run for president again' (activate his network of spies, thugs and assassins to commit election fraud, again). Not only that, there is evidence that he is being protected and even coddled by the U.S. government--the Obama administration--very likely, in my opinion, because of what he knows about U.S. government funding and direct participation in his many crimes in Colombia, and, as our president has said, "we need to look forward not backward" on the crimes of the rich and powerful.

Thus, DAS may be "disbanded"--and I really can't judge whether or not Santos is sincere in doing that (he may well be)--but DAS lives on, as an unofficial Uribe/Bushwhack network of crime. It will probably be like how the AUC got "disbanded" and turned into the "Black Eagles." (An organized death squad institution pretends to de-mobilize but, in reality, just becomes a looser and more illusive crime network). Jorge Noguera may have been sacrificed but Uribe is waiting out Diebold/ESS's choice for president of the U.S. next year, to get re-installed in power over one of the world's biggest revenue sources (cocaine), and one of the U.S. war profiteers' biggest boondoggles (the "war on drugs") and his spy chief Maria Hurtado (the one who was likely working with U.S. embassy) absconded to the U.S. client state of Panama and got instant, overnight asylum there. Uribe meanwhile has been 'teaching' at Georgetown and Harvard (not without protest) and got appointed to a prestigious international legal commission.

There is many a crime being covered up here, not just U.S. aid for Uribe's spying/hit squad operation (thousands murdered including many labor union leaders), but, in my opinion, likely participation by the U.S. military and U.S. military 'contractors' in some of the heinous crimes in Colombia during the Bush Junta. Is Santos "doing an Obama" on the crimes of the rich and powerful, or is he genuinely going after this vast, entrenched and extremely dangerous mafia and its U.S. government/corporate allies who installed it in power over Colombia?

It's evident that Colombian judges and prosecutors are serious about investigating/prosecuting Uribe and Hurtado. They have a warrant out for Hurtado (which Interpol is not honoring--which tells you something about Interpol, if you didn't already know the part they played in "the miracle laptop" caper*). But it's interesting what happens when anybody tries to investigate Uribe. A special legislative committee was formed to investigate him and, one by one, its members resigned, several admitting to death threats. Colombian judges and prosecutors seem to be more courageous than that, but they have been hampered and frustrated at every turn. For instance, when Uribe was still in power, he and the U.S. Ambassador (Wm. Brownfield) colluded in overnight extraditions of death squad witnesses to the U.S., on mere drug charges, and their burial in the U.S. federal prison system out of the reach of Colombian prosecutors and over their objections.

Dispersal of DAS operatives who were working with Uribe into the general government population may be good, may be bad. I don't know--and can't know--for sure. ("Total Information Awareness" comes to mind. They took away the name, but does anyone really believe that the U.S. government stopped spying on its citizens?) It's possible that Santos and Colombian prosecutors are working together to truly clean up Colombia. I hope it's true--and I hope they are successful. But it is a much more daunting task than any corporate news source would disclose (including the BBCons) because of very probable U.S. government involvement in the murder, mayhem and corruption, and, very likely, on-going Bush Cartel interests in Colombia and those of other powerful malefactors.

One more thing: It's pretty clear that Leon Panetta yanked Uribe because he was too "hot" (and landed him on a silk cushion) and vetted and approved Santos. And we can only guess at the deal between Santos and the U.S. government on U.S. "free trade for the rich" in Colombia (i.e., Monsanto, Chiquita, Drummond Coal, Exxon Mobile, Citibank, et al). But part of the deal would surely have been to create the APPEARANCE that Colombia is being "cleaned up." Again, I can't know if Santos is sincere. He surely HAD to make a deal with the U.S./CIA to be permitted into power--but how much leash they are giving him, and his own true goals and desires are very difficult to suss out (just like Obama's are).

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*(The "miracle laptop": Long story, but in summary: Uribe claimed that his forces rescued a FARC laptop computer that contained 'evidence' that the leftist leaders of his two neighbor countries--Hugo Chavez and Rafael Correa (Ecuador)--were supporting the FARC in an effort to obtain a "dirty bomb" and other such crapola. The "miracle laptop"--which had survived a couple of 500 lb U.S. "smart bombs" in tact--was soon debunked but not before the head on Interpol--contradicting the findings of his own analysts--had done what he could to give the impression that there was something to Uribe's claims. Fast-forward to Colombian prosecutors' warrant against DAS chief Hurtado. Interpol turned it down--a flabbergasting act--and thus Colombian prosecutors have no mechanism by which to arrest Hurtado in Panama and can't get her testimony against Uribe until, maybe, the mafia guy whom the U.S. is supporting in Panama--who has a 25% approval rating (and is a Uribe crony)--gets ousted. In short, Interpol sucks.)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 10:16 PM
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3. Cliff Claven was the barfly on "Cheers" who was always making up stories
to explain the world to the other guys. The mail carrier. He would have done well in GD. lol :)

"Well, the Romans had an elaborate system of aqueducts there Sammy. They were, sort of, the forerunners of plumbing..."

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