Let's Face It, There Are A SIGNIFICANT Amount Of People Who Are UPSET That The Terror Attack Failed

[Beetwasher]

And I'm not talking about AQ, I'm talking about people in this country. I know it, you know it, they know it, everyone knows it but won't say it. They would have gladly sacrificed all those people on the plane so they could use it against Obama and blast him for having an attack on his watch and use it for political gain. Impeachment to follow.

Of course, no one in the media or politics will dare say this or point it out even though practically everyone knows this is true.

[dkf]

1. I'm upset that a warning from a man's father isn't taken seriously.

How often do we act upon these warnings anyway? Are these mostly headed for the file never to be seen until the person in question perpetrates a heinous act?

[jberryhill]

4. Because Everyone's Father Is Completely Trustworthy

Don't want your kid to leave the country? Call the US Embassy and tell them he's a terrorist.

The no-fly list is not a random "tip line".

[grytpype]

6. Well... it got the guy flagged in a terrorist-connected database.

Apparently it wasn't enough to get him on the no-fly list.

You can say with 20-20 hindsight that this was a mistake.

But possibly there just weren't enough dots to connect to ID this guy as a probable suicide bomber.

[boppers]

13. "My son got involved in politics and stopped talking to me."

If that were the criteria, how much of DU would be on a no-fly list?

[Hekate]

16. Easily half of DU -- LOLz

[flamingdem]

21. ha ha ha good one nt

[Deep13]

2. This one guy I know from high school offered to bet me ...

...that there would be a major terrorist attack on the USA within six months of Obama taking office. When I pointed out that he was betting against the USA, he denied it.

[AspenRose]

3. True.

Sadly.

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. I don't know where I read it.

I was surprised by the matter of fact way it was written. Didn't have to do with terrorism, but the writer wrote, "while we're all waiting for Obama to fail..."

So, yes, I would believe that there is a sick segment of our population who realize that the only way the Republicans are going to get back up on their game, is by walking over Obama's failures.

[dmr]

20. With the Cheney's fear mongering & the Faux News propaganda all throughout 2009

I've been worried they (Cheney's shadowy friends) might provoke something to scare and confuse the American public.

I'm not one to wear a tinfoil cap, but I also don't put it past the Bush* monsters not to pull a MIHOP, either.

Fear! Fear! Fear!

:grr:

[grytpype]

7. There's a lot less of that than I expected.

From what I gather reading forums (I stopped watching Cable News years ago), there are only a couple of Repug kooks out there trying to turn this situation into Repug Gold.

[Cha]

8. "If they really want to politicize National Security"..

babylonsister (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-29-09 07:12 PM
Original message
If They Really Want To Politicize National Security
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_12/021682.php

IF THEY REALLY WANT TO POLITICIZE NATIONAL SECURITY.... A variety of congressional Republicans seem awfully anxious to play partisan games with the terrorist threat, and exploit the Abdulmutallab plot for electoral gain. The risk, of course, is that by starting the fight, the GOP attack dogs may be confronted with issues they're unprepared to deal with.

There is, for example, the fact that the nominated head of the TSA can't get confirmed because of Republican obstructionism. Then there's the fact that congressional Republicans also opposed funding for the TSA, including money for screening operations and explosives detection systems.

And then there's this unpleasant tidbit.

Two of the four leaders allegedly behind the al Qaeda plot to blow up a Northwest Airlines passenger jet over Detroit were released by the U.S. from the Guantanamo prison in November 2007, according to American officials and Department of Defense documents. Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for the Northwest bombing in a Monday statement that vowed more attacks on Americans.

American officials agreed to send the two terrorists from Guantanamo to Saudi Arabia, where they entered into an "art therapy rehabilitation program" and were set free, according to U.S. and Saudi officials.

As Ron Chusid put it, "Just imagine the Republican response if Barack Obama or Bill Clinton had released prisoners to enter an 'art therapy rehabilitation program.' This sounds almost as silly as an American president sitting and reading a children's book while the country is under attack."

Now, just to be clear, I'm not suggesting Bush/Cheney are indirectly responsible for the attempted attack on Christmas. Sure, the Bush/Cheney administration released some of the alleged terrorists who plotted the attack into an "art therapy rehabilitation program" in Saudi Arabia, only to see them become terrorist leaders in Yemen. And sure, it was the Bush administration that gave Abdulmutallab a visa to enter the United States in the first place. But there was almost certainly no way for the former administration to know what would happen.

Let's be honest -- if Obama had released the attack's plotters into an "art therapy rehabilitation program" in Saudi Arabia, we would never hear the end of it. This would be the lead story on Fox News every day until the end of time. "Art therapy rehabilitation program" would become President Obama's middle name(s).

If Republicans really want to turn the attempted terrorist attack into a partisan fight, Democrats should welcome the opportunity.

—Steve Benen

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x102148

[Hekate]

17. That info is really worthy of a Democratic "bring it on" to the Pub noise machine.

Yes indeedy. :evilgrin:

Hekate

[704wipes]

19. Art Therapy in Saudi Arabia would consist of what?

Painting landscapes of sand dunes? :shrug:

[boppers]

23. It's a seriously intentioned program.

The idea being that if artistic endeavors can be more important in their lives, they won't resort to extreme and violent measures.

Unfortunately, the well-intentioned folks haven't quite "gotten" that art includes performance art.

[woo me with science]

9. There are a amount?

There really are?

[QC]

10. Yes, there is definitely amounts. n/t

[woo me with science]

12. Am they big? nt

[CLANG]

11. The entire situation is just sad...

[Imagevision]

14. Dick Cheney - Joe Lieberman Sarah Palin Sean Hannity-Rush...

[winyanstaz]

15. I wouldnt say a significant amount of people.....

There really arent that many tea-baggers you know.
I think most Americans truly want Obama to suceed..they are just angry because of so many about-faces on promises already.
If Obama was to do some actual good for the working man...his popularity would go through the roof again.

[Hekate]

18. According to the new Gallup Poll, his popularity is already thru the roof with Dems of all stripes

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121199/Obama-Weekly-Job-Approval-Demographic-Groups.aspx

Gallup Poll for December 21-27

Approval for Obama under the category of Party ID and Ideology together: Liberal Dems are at 87% approval, Moderate Dems-83%, Conservative Dems-73%, Pure Independents-47%, Liberal/Moderate Repubs-35%, Conservative Repubs-13%.

again......

Liberal Dems -- 87% approval
Moderate Dems -- 83%
Conservative Dems -- 73%

Republicans and *some* DUers are bitterly unhappy with Obama. The rest of the voters, not so much.

Hekate

[Cali_Democrat]

22. So true!!! Those people you speak of would do anything to tear down Obama

nt

[Kablooie]

24. Of course! People that "love America" always want Americans to die and be destroyed.

And people who "hate America" want people to be helped and live.