Get your heads out of your armpits for 10 minutes and listen up.. Bush released

[Peacetrain]

{By the way, Happy New Year everyone)

a series of Yemeni detainees..and Saudi nationals.. (remember folks it was the Saudis that attacked us on 9/11 not the Iraqis or Afghanis) against all advice for their own DOD on those particular detainees.



It does not take a genius to figure out, that the best way to hamstring the next presidency (whom ever would win that office,) and keep the heat off of what a royal screw up that they did, (especially in torture and gitmo) than to release people who should be tried, and who will knowingly and aggressively work to attack the United States again.. Makes them look right and keeps us at war.

Well guess what it worked. .. The Bush and Cheney people have long history with the oil folks of the Saudi royalty.


At least no one was killed. But you got to get your heads back into the game here. The republicans and their toadies are working this, to try and keep the spotlight off of them.

This is why trials are so necessary. Some people really are guilty..does not mean all are guilty ..It is the ONLY way we can sort this mess out

[tularetom]

1. Hang 'em all and let god sort the mess out

We can have trials later.

[geckosfeet]

2. My guess is that some of these guys have information regarding 'black ops'

and intel services that was not supposed to see the light of day. If it gets out then people will start to put two and two together.

[Canuckistanian]

3. Total inaction regarding Saudi Arabia caused 9/11, period.

I believe S.A. is the main source of radical Wahabism. And some in the Saudi royal family believe in it, practise it and fund it.

And we in the West continue to prop up the government and send it billions of petrodollars a year, no questions asked.

I can't help wondering what things would have looked like if Gore had won in 2000. Would HE have had the guts to speak the truth after 9/11?

[treestar]

4. Rec'd

Bush did not want a system. he had none. So it was equal fail for those he released as for those he kept there, claiming they all had no right to any hearing or process, and neither did the American people - they were to be kept or released just on Bush's say-so. Same if they were released. Too bad, American people if they are in fact guilty.

[D-Lee]

5. Yes! And WHY is the Bush admission that they have NO FILES on many detainees forgotten?

Seems clear that there were no trials, by the court or by a military tribunal, because basic adverse information was lacking, not recorded, non-existant or maybe even destroyed?

The "indefinite detention" proponents utterly ignore this issue, just automatically assuming there is a good reason for detention.

Oh, yuck!

[MadMaddie]

11. You are on to something

The reason there were not any trials or tribunals for most of the 750 people that they had once held at Guantanamo is because with the exception of about 100 of them, many of them were picked up because a jealous neighbor or business rival turned them in for $$$$. That's the big secret. They couldn't prosecute because there was no evidence.

So knowing that, you get tribunals instead of U.S. trials and you can prosecute without ever really giving any real evidence. The thing is the * administration was so fucking incompetent that they couldn't even get their joke tribunals to run right. Absolute failures at everything they touched.

(by the way U.S. trials have convicted and sentenced many terrorists who currently reside in U.S. high security prisons.)

[Jamastiene]

6. They are doing now the same sort of crap they did to President Carter.

They are working behind the scenes with terrorists to cause as many national and international incidents as they possibly can. Remember the coalition of the willing? Yeah, that included a bunch of people who have zero problem abusing human rights or doing anything else that the Republicans want.

I'm betting on another hostage crisis in 2012. That's probably what they are leading up to right now. It sure looks that way.

[JVS]

7. Yup. Trials are necessary. And whose job is it to get on that?

When you let republicans go untried, you let them win elections later.

[flpoljunkie]

8. Tell that to the dickheads at WSJ who fail to blame Bush/Cheney, focus on 'Obama's Security Breach'

WSJ, does 'properly identifying the enemy' include releasing Yemeni al Qaeda members? And, does not that not qualify as a 'security breach?' Umar Abdulmutallab is said to have talked quite bit apparently before he was 'lawyered up' under FBI interrogators--you know, the ones who know how to obtain evidence without torture? Totally irresponsible, one-sided claptrap from the WSJ! No surprise there! (Emphasis mine.)

Obama's Security 'Breach'

President Obama has belatedly declared that the near miss above Detroit constituted "a catastrophic breach of security" and ordered a review of America's intelligence efforts. We're glad to hear it, but let's hope the Commander in Chief also rethinks his own approach to counterterrorism.

Recent events have exposed the shortcomings of treating terror as a law enforcement problem and rushing to close Guantanamo Bay. A new wave of jihadists is coming of age, inspiring last month's deadly attack at Ft. Hood and nearly bringing down Northwest Flight 253, and next time we may not be so lucky.

Senior leaders of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula: Abu Hurayrah Qasim al-Reemi , Said al-Shihri, Naser Abdel Karim al-Wahishi, alias Abu Basir, and Abu al-Hareth Muhammad al-Oufi. Al-Oufi, who was once held in U.S. custody in Guantanamo Bay, surrendered in Yemen recently and was handed over to Saudis. Al-Shiri was also once held in Guantanamo.

Their latest sanctuary lies in unruly Yemen, headquarters for al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, or AQAP, which last year pulled off a series of local bombings, including at the U.S. embassy in the capital Sana, killing 13. The al Qaeda chapter in Yemen has re-emerged under the leadership of a former secretary to Osama bin Laden.

Along with a dozen other al Qaeda members, he was allowed to escape from a Yemeni jail in 2006. His deputy, Said Ali al-Shihri, was a Saudi inmate at Gitmo who after his release "graduated" from that country's terrorist "rehabilitation" program before moving to Yemen last year. About a fifth of the so-called graduates have ended back on the Saudi terror most-wanted list, according to a GAO study this year.

Stopping future attacks is going to require interrogation—and before criminal charges are filed. We need to learn who gave Abdulmuttalab the PETN explosive and whether there is some al Qaeda terrormaster coordinating similar attacks the way KSM coordinated the 9/11 hijackings. Yet the White House impulse is to indict any terrorist we capture under criminal charges and let him lawyer-up. We may be lucky this time if Abdulmuttalab is singing, but that won't always be the case.

Whatever their mistakes, the Bush-Cheney policies properly identified the enemy and kept the U.S. homeland safe after 9/11. The Obama Administration needs to shed some of its campaign illusions to meet this evolving threat, and not returning Gitmo's detainees to Yemen is an essential first step.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703278604574624503147162222.html

[avaistheone1]

9. I agree Bush and Cheney screwed up big time in releasing those guys.

That point can't be made often or loud enough.

k&r

[Peacetrain]

10. Honestly, and the MSM is so deep into the pockets of the right now, they are timid

if they bring it up at all.

[RepublicanElephant]

12. k&r

[Overseas]

13. K&R. //nt