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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:40 PM
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Tweety STF!!!!! up with your DOOM and gloom of the Dem's
Edited on Mon Jan-04-10 05:43 PM by bigdarryl
JESUS!!!! 40 seat lost he and that fat Charlie Cook are now predicting whats with this the Dem's are delusional SHIT!! the last time I checked the election is in NOVEMBER 2010 not JANUARY 4th 2010 what fucking idiots on MSNBC
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:46 PM
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1. Chris Matthews
helped Bush get re-elected. The man really does not when to shut his mouth.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:47 PM
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2. That is because thats..
what they want to happen. They know if they hype it up by election time the stupid,uninformed and the racists may listen to them..They also tried this during campaign 2008 and it didn't work so everyday they come up with more and more lies.

They will never tell the truth. They are hyping up this so called terrorist attack but they praised bush for 911. They know it was his and the repug policies who put this country where it is today but do you ever see them doing a show pointing out these points..
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:51 PM
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4. GOOD!!! point I heard today Randy say Obama has killed 68 terrorist in Yeman
but there's nothing in the media on this
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JelloSka Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 11:41 PM
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22. Alleged terrorist
That's better. There's no way to verify they were "terrorists."
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 06:59 AM
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24. If you are going to be that picky...
you should add that Obama did not kill the terrorists, as the post allegedly claims.
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:50 PM
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3. Well he's speaking the truth. If the GOP gets 5 seats in the Senate, we might as well just move out
of the country. Obama wont be able to get anything done. I don't know what's more disturbing. The Republicans saying no to everything, or that it's actually working w/ some people.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 06:23 PM
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10. your new doom and gloom approach is entertaining
welcome to DU
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 06:39 PM
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12. Then they will start ....
trying to predict the future again. The repugs will start showing their arrogance again but even more. These are the same silly ass people who think that everything will keep on going the same way it did in the 90'S I have news for them this is not the 90's and these are not the same people of the 90's. These teabaggers really think that they are the majority.

The GOP just keep hyping up wars overseas and talking about the terrorists but, they don't seem to get the fact that the terrorists are already here in more ways than one. By the way,when they name and show the pictures of terrorists why don't we ever see the picture of the guy who killed the guard at the holocaust museum? Why don't we hear about these terrorists who shoot up malls? Who shoot up schools?

The Repugs always told us "have you forgotten"? Hell no! I haven't forgotten all of the lying ass bullshit the media puts out for public consumpution and the uninformed who didn't give a damn eat it up because they didn't pay attention for eight years,these silly ass people really,really believe that bush protected them. Protected them from what! all of the crime he created with his policies,all of the people sleeping in tent cities in their cars who were/are dying in the streets.

How in the hell are we going to fight so called terrorists when the repugs are helping them by talking our president down everyday. I will never understand how somebody who claims they love God who they can't see can hate a man just because of the color of his skin. That is f---up. I am so sick of this shit!! and the people who believe it..
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:29 AM
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23. If Obama keeps "getting things done" the way he has been, I'll be relieved if
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 12:31 AM by salguine
he can't get anything more done. Everything he get done seems to benefit the insurance cartels, the banking industry and the credit card parasites at the expense of the citizenry.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:54 PM
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5. No Kidding. It's unbelievable.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 05:57 PM
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6. Why? That's all one sees on DU 24/7....
Why should tweety be held to any higher standard?
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 06:03 PM
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7. Tweety is a DU poster
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 07:18 PM
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14. He is? That's news to me.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 06:08 PM
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8. Do yourself a favor
Turn it off. I can tell by the capital letters your blood pressure is rising.

Light some candles. Pour a glass of wine. Put on some good music. (You'll be upholding the caricature of a good liberal, anyway). Dance with your partner. Read a book. Cook something delicious. Do a crossword puzzle. Take up knitting. Clean a closet. Get some work done that you'd been procrastinating over the holidays. Go feed the homeless or tutor a struggling child. Go for a drive. Write an email to someone you've lost touch with.

I honestly stopped watching the cable news shows five weeks or so ago. I just couldn't take it anymore. None of them. Even the ones I normally agree with.

I spent the eight years of the Bush administration fighting tooth and nail. I don't want to listen to all the jibber jabber anymore. Imagine that you have been given only 6 months to live. Do you want to spend the rest of your life listening to political prognosticating and crazy crap ... or do you want to simply be aware of what is in the news and lead a rewarding life?

I'm not kidding. Too much politics is unhealthy.

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 06:20 PM
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9. You should take comfort in Tweety's predictions. He usually WRONG.
:patriot:
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JelloSka Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 08:07 PM
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17. Who made the prediction? Matthews or Cook?
It's not clear in the OP.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 08:22 PM
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18. Matthews. Cook said he thinks we'll just hold on to our Dem. majority by the slimmest margin. n/t
Edited on Mon Jan-04-10 08:25 PM by jenmito
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JelloSka Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 08:33 PM
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19. Doesn't that mean that Cook made the prediction, too?
A scenario in which we keep our majority is consistent with roughly a 40 seat loss, isn't it?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:20 PM
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20. The OP must've not heard right because although they WERE discussing 40 seats,
Cook said that's the MOST they'd lose and Matthews said HE thinks we'll LOSE the house.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 07:44 AM
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26. We would have to lose over 78 seats for that to happen. Not even in 1994 did that occur.
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 07:44 AM by Jennicut
It was 52 seats then. He is smokin something.
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JelloSka Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:07 PM
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29. Wouldn't we only have to lose 40 seats or so?
257-40=213 Democrats. And of course, those 40 seats would be added to the Republicans' 178.
178+40=218 Republicans.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 06:36 PM
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11. Just the other day on C-Span Charlie Cook said he does not think the Dems. will lose the House...
but Chris Matthews pushed him into saying we MAY lose the House if we keep going at the rate we've been going the past 2 or 3 months. Matthews was like a dog in heat tonight. He just loves shakin' things up and having exciting politics, no matter what.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 06:49 PM
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13. Listen to him.
I'll watch in about ten minutes, but folks should consider that Matthews is like the canary in the coal mine -- because a worst case scenario certainly is possible.

Democrats need to get back the populist message that has been ceded to the teabaggers (manufactured by lobbyists as that message maybe).

The health care insurance reform process has made Obama and the Democrats look like Washington-corporate insiders, reappointing Bernanke along with support the bailouts has made them look like their on the side of the bankers, the Afghansitan 'surge' looks like war as usual -- in other words, it looks much more like business as usual than "change we can believe in."

If Democrats don't get back on the side of change and people power, then you bet, they could lose the House and five or six Senate seats. NOT because voters will love the Republican message but because the progressive activists will stay home and not volunteer and because average voters will vote AGAIN for change ... even if it is not the kind of change they really want.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 07:45 PM
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15. Tweety just fills in a day with airwave psychobabble
He likes his gig. Period.

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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 08:03 PM
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16. Please stop watch MSNBC.
I haven't watched MSNBC on a regular basis since the inauguration.

I watch sports and other non-news cable shows.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 09:23 PM
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21. The thing that drives me crazy about him is that he will not take a stand on anything. No matter
who is on his show - he agrees with them.

I wish the Msnbc lineup went from Ed right to Keith. I can't watch Tweety anymore.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 07:27 AM
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25. I only watch Matthews when he has someone on that...
interests me. On the rare occasions when he shuts his yap, I can get some insight from the guest.

Here's my take on Tweety:

He's not all that bright, but he can be controversial

He has "name recognition" in some quarters

He is "credentialed" because of his ties to the Carter Administration

He's arrogant

He's not all that well informed

He has no obvious allegiances, (wishy-washy and easily manipulated)

He is far to hyper to do the type of show he does


He cannot keep his mouth closed, and that is exceptionally irritating when he finally does ask something of substance, and can't wait for an answer. It's like listening to someone with a a severe lack of understanding the basic rules of civility. If he did this act in a bar, he'd be beaten to a pulp before he finished his first beer. He's not as bullying as O'Reilly or Hannity, but he's just as irritating. When he has someone on Like Katrina vanden Hueval, an incredibly intelligent and astute individual, he knows he's outclassed and proceeds to go into "moron mode", just blabbering on and interrupting at mid-sentence of an answer. It is incredibly annoying, and I'm actually surprised he hasn't been taken to task for this on a more steady basis.

I've noticed that quite a few people are not going for the "face time" on his show of late, I think some people have just had it w/him. What good does it do to be asked a question, then be cut off within a few words of an answer...even if I don't agree w/the answer of the person answering...I still want to know where they are coming from. By giving someone like Boehner or DeLay a platform to spout off...if you let them go on for longer than 10 seconds, they make complete idiots of themselves.

Matthews is a social clod.

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 07:48 AM
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27. People, we are in no way losing the house. Obama would have to be at 30% approval
for that to happen like Bush was. We have 79 seats in the House. In 1994 we lost 52 seats and Clinton's approval was lower and the Dems controlled things for years, and Newt Gingrich had the Rethugs pulled together with the Contract for (or on) America. We will lose about 20 seats, maybe 40 if the economy really starts to tank but I think it looks like it will improve. Chris Matthews wants excitement and controversy. He is never on your side.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 09:43 AM
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28. re: "maybe 40" That's losing the House
79 vote margin.

40 seats switch=pugs by one.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:44 PM
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33. Yes but really it keeps it at a stalemate.
Conservadems with Rethugs vs the rest of the Dems.
I doubt we even lose that many. 20 to 30 at the most.
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JelloSka Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:10 PM
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30. Clinton's approval wasn't much worse than Obama's in 1994
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 12:10 PM by JelloSka
Right before the elections, it was 46% in Gallup. As I type this, Obama's is 49%: http://www.gallup.com/poll/116584/presidential-approval-ratings-bill-clinton.aspx
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:41 PM
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32. Right, but it would need to be in the 30's to lose 79 seats, not just the 52
Clinton lost. It is slightly above Clinton's and I don't see it falling any further, it has stayed steady at around 50% since Nov. I don't see Obama falling to Bush 2006 levels, which is what would be needed to take back the House by Rethugs.
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JelloSka Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 01:24 PM
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34. why 72 and not 40?
It's unclear why you used the 72-seat figure, when 40 is the key number.

In the year 2010, Democrats would only have to lose 40 seats to Republicdans in order to become a minority.

Let's do the math: Right now, Democrats have 257 House seats vs. 178 for the Republicans. If the Democrats lose 40 seats to Republicans, then the Democrats will end up with 217 seats (257-40=217) while the Republicans will end up with a slim majority, at 218 seats (178 + 40)=218.

In 1994, Democrats lost 54 seats to the Republicans. Before the 1994 elections, Democrats led Republicans 258-176 (a 82 seat margin). This didn't mean that Democrats had to lose 82 seats in order to lose their majority. All they had to lose was half of 82 (that is, 41 seats) in order to lose their majority.

So the formula is:
Seats needed for a minority party to tie the majority party in seats= Seat margin divided by 2
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 12:37 PM
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31. Wait a day --- Flip Flop Tweety will be taking the opposite position, then he'll flip again
He tends to do that. Consistency is not his strong point.
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