malloy says undie bomber was another pnac/cheney inside job.

[RepublicanElephant]

he was quoting from this article:

Questions mount over attempt to bomb Detroit-bound jetliner

The official discussion repeats the same rhetorical trope employed to cover up the role of US intelligence agencies before the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001—that they failed to “connect the dots.” This metaphor suggests a highly abstruse process in which many small details, each seemingly innocent in itself, are correlated through sophisticated analysis by experts familiar with the patterns of terrorist operations.

No such operation was required to detect the Northwest Airlines bomb plot. The facts listed above were a series of fire alarms, each sufficient in itself to give the alert. To stop Abdulmuttalab from boarding the US-bound jetliner was a routine police matter, one that would ordinarily be executed without difficulty by the government of any middle-sized country, let alone by the most powerful military/intelligence apparatus on the planet.

If the Nigerian was allowed to board the jet in Amsterdam, it was because at some level within the US military/intelligence apparatus, the decision was made to allow him to do so.

The real failure to “connect the dots” is the refusal to draw any conclusions from the inaction of the US intelligence apparatus. Who made the decision not to act? Why did they make this decision? Was the intention that the would-be bomber succeed or fail? Was it a deliberate attempt to undermine the Obama administration? Was it a deliberate attempt to provide a pretext for further US military action in the Middle East?

http://wsws.org/articles/2010/jan2010/bomb-j04.shtml

[MrMickeysMom]

1. Who will pick up this story and mainstream it?

I came in late to this and it's stunning...

[RepublicanElephant]

2. he said olbermann and maddow were heading in this direction. nt

[eleny]

8. I got that same impression from their broadcasts of tonight

I'm watching Olbermann again right now.

Seems like Cheney is getting hammered for his assertions this time around. Chris Matthews accusing Politico today, to its face, that it's used by Cheney as Drudge is used was pretty wild.

[jenmito]

10. I watched Morning Joe and saw that Mike Allen from Politico called Cheney

to ask his opinion of Obama's handling of the situation. And it looked like Jonathan Martin knew that when he kept claiming he didn't know how Cheney got his info. to Politico.

[eleny]

11. And Matthews no doubt knew that about Martin by the time his show went on the air

Well, around DU Politico was quickly recognized as a hack operation even if they had some good articles now and then. Just this morning I objected to the tone of an article they published about how the Obama's spent their Sunday (yesterday) in Hawaii. It was obvious what Politico was up to and it was no good. The url to my reply in that thread...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=109388&mesg_id=109534

[Parker CA]

17. Mathews tore them up today. He said "that isn't journalism." Loved seeing it!!

[jenmito]

3. MSNBC via Richard Wolffe was reporting something about the possibility

of someone intentionally withholding the intel...

[CTyankee]

23. I saw that! It really jumped out at me and made me think.

I am NOT a conspiracy theorist, but all of a sudden it made me think. All those missed signals leading up to the guy getting on the plane in Amsterdam, how could that be? The TSA takes toothpaste tubes away from people if they're too big, but they couldn't get THIS right, with all the red flags?

Then the huge hullabaloo by the RW because the media and the president were responding negatively enough...hmmm...

[JelloSka]

4. With Iraq about to be US-troop-less, the War Machine needs to find new places

To justify the making of tanks, planes, drones, bombs, night-vision goggles, etc.

Eisenhower warned us against the Military-Industrial complex.

[jenmito]

5. Obama's not part of this "inside job" and he's very angry about it

according to Richard Wolffe at MSNBC.

[glitch]

13. He should be. nt

[Sebastian Doyle]

21. Actually, that was Malloy's point.

He believes Cheney and the neocon shitbags are doing this to deliberately damage Obama. Since he won't give them an easy setup like Clinton did with his sexual "extra curricular activities", they have to create some fictitious "terra" incident. And had the bomb actually worked and killed everybody on the plane... oh well, what's a few hundred more dead bodies to the Bush Crime Family?

[bertman]

12. Basically you're right, JelloSka; although, it appears that we are leaving BILLIONS of dollars

worth of equipment behind. That ought to keep some military supply contractors happy for a while.

[NBachers]

6. Soviet-era show-puppet government, Pravda, and the KGB

When I was a kid, I remember hearing, "Their media is controlled; they are told how to think and what to believe."

And now it's come home to where I live.

[tledford]

24. +1, sadly. eom

[spiritual_gunfighter]

7. The CNN story a few days ago

that said that the CIA had a file on this guy months ago made me think that there was some rogue element still loyal to Cheney within the CIA that wanted this attack to happen. I think there may have been a thread about it on DU as well.

[grasswire]

14. another LIHOP or MIHOP

It sure wasn't hard to spot this one. I got jumped on for being skeptical right up front.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

18. I remember when you did

I was wary of the initial reports as well.

[Greenpeach]

9. Everything they do is an attempt...

to undermine/overthrow, if possible, the Obama administration. Has this country ever seen such an aggregation of slimy, smarmy murderous creeps as comprise the right-wing?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

15. This was a fake run

imagine all the trouble that it has caused and it didn't even happen.

[zulchzulu]

16. Using PETN without a detonator is... well, what Richard Reid did...

In order for PETN to be at it's "best", you need a detonator (which would be nearly impossible under current TSA checking conditions) AND a hard surface to explode the device (not a human in the middle aisle) to make it "happen".

Inside job?

Are you fucking kidding? 9/11 was the ultimate inside job. In case people forgot, Al Qaeda is a CIA-based boogeyman to enhance the military industrial complex and rein fear among the non-thinking populace...

[ima_sinnic]

19. but, please, let's not prosecute anyone for anything that can be proven

There were no consequences of any great degree for anybody for Iran-Contra, they came back and robbed us blind on the back of 9/11, sponsoring "contractors" and a war at great profit to themselves, and are now known to be war criminals, yet they walk freely among us and are not even prohibited from "serving" in "public office," and people are surprised they might have a "shadow government" (how's that "bipartisanship" and "team of rivals" thing working out?) and now speculate that another "terrorist incident" might be an inside job--quel surprise!

wake me up when somebody actually has the courage and the morality to actually do anything about war criminals and traitors--until then, they are free to plot their little plots through their moles and plants and an administration that appears to bend over backward to mollycoddle RW dead-weighters.

[uponit7771]

20. They had lines drawn for them they didn't have to "connect the dots"

[LoZoccolo]

22. Democratic Underground, 2001-2009. Good night, sweet prince.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE

[RepublicanElephant]

25. randi rhodes now on this. nt