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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:37 PM
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The anatomy of the 'Cadillac Tax' (or, it doesn't eat babies)
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 05:38 PM by SpartanDem
There has been a lot of grumbling inside the progressive inner-divide on the health care debate about the so-called 'Cadillac tax.' The Senate-passed bill raises $150 billion over 10 years by this method. The idea is to recede the tax exemption on high-end employer-provided health insurance plans. A lot of labor unions are understandably angry because their members have given up wages to keep and earn these benefits. On the other hand, there seems to be somewhat of a meeting of the minds among the policy wonks that this is an effective cost control measure. So what's going on?

I decided to actually look into the policy. Who it applies to, whom it is going to affect and to what degree, and what the cost controls, if any, are. I wanted to look into whether the claims of this being a cost control measure are true. I also wanted to look into whether the claims of this being a policy that balances the health care woes on the backs of working people is true. I must admit that I consider myself more of a policy wonk. Perhaps I best self describe as a empathy-driven policy wonk, however.

Whom does the tax apply to, and whom doesn't it apply to?
(snip)

So not only is it only applicable to employers (including self-employers), if you are retired and over 55 (i.e. union members who have great retirement benefits) or if you are employed in a high risk profession (police, firefighter, workers at a nuclear facility), your individual limit is $9,850 and your family limit is $26,000. To clarify, the 40% tax is also only on the amount above and beyond the above thresholds.

The Kaiser Family Foundation, in its Employer Health Benefit Survey found that in 2009, the average cost of employer-sponsored coverage for individuals was $4,824 per year, and for families, $13,375 per year. Note that both amounts are little more than half of the prices of health insurance plans where a so-called Cadillac tax would kick in. The survey further finds that that 2% of workers with individual coverage have a plan that costs $8,000 or more in premiums and only 4% of workers with family coverage have plans with premiums greater than $20,000. Given the floor for the Cadillac tax is even higher, $8,500 and $23,000 respectively, a very very very small percentage of workers have plans that are that expensive. In other words, 98% of workers with individual policies from their employers and over 96% of workers with family coverage do not currently fall under this penalty.

Adjustment for cost increases: I have heard complains that the excise tax is not indexed for inflation. This is not true. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the "Cadillac" tax threshold is indexed. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the "Cadillac" tax threshold is indexed.


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/1/5/821971/-The-anatomy-of-the-Cadillac-Tax-(or,-it-doesnt-eat-babies)
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 06:14 PM
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1. There's also this about the 'Cadillac' plan from a health analyst writing in Huffpo yesterday...
What he says does give one pause. It is also concerning that the Senate health plans only cover 60% of costs, and the premiums that we will be subsidizing are not cheap. There is work to be done to make the health care bill that comes out of the House and Senate negotiations better.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/im-the-guy-who-cut-your-h_b_410999.html

Take the excise tax, which people claim affects only "Cadillac plans": The idea that it will "bend the cost curve" is based on studies that were new and exciting back in the Duran Duran days, but have since been seriously challenged. (I'll be writing more about that.) The excise tax will actually cut benefits - mostly very standard benefits, the kind most of us enjoy - from plans that have older or sicker members, people in certain industries, or members in the wrong part of the country. And they won't reduce overall costs at all.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 08:44 PM
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2. lol, the thread title alone deserves a kick and rec. NT
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 09:07 PM
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3. K&R.
Thanks.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 09:36 PM
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4. Great post - recommended here and on Daily Kos
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deaniac83 Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 10:16 PM
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5. Thank you
I'm the person who wrote that diary on Daily Kos, and I'm also the proprietor of the blog www.thepeoplesview.net. It's good to be part of this community.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 11:09 PM
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6. Welcome to DU - that was a great Daily Kos diary
:hi:
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deaniac83 Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 11:11 PM
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7. Thank you, karyn
thanks for the compliments. Health care is personal for me, and that's why I am so obsessed with actually finding the facts before jumping to conclusions.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 01:00 PM
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10. Welcome to DU
Edited on Wed Jan-06-10 01:02 PM by SpartanDem
that was a very informative post.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 11:16 PM
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8. Is it based on the price alone?
If someone pays this ridiculous amount for standard coverage, (because their insurance company is charging them a very high amount due to "risk factors") do they still have a "cadillac"? Would someone that's getting seriously screwed by their insurance then have to pay a tax on top of it?

I'm glad to see the percentage is as small as it is (2%), but if what I described is possible, you can bet the repukes will go find the people in this situation and get them all over the TV.
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deaniac83 Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 01:25 AM
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9. Re: risk factors
I have actually addressed this in detail in other posts on my blog. Once the new bill goes into effect, the only "risk factors" insurance companies will be allowed to consider are age, tobacco use and family size. That'll be it. They will no longer be able to charge you extra because you get sick or because you have a pre-existing condition.
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