I"m tired of everyone saying he/she is in "favor of gay marriage."

[DuaneBidoux]

I'm not in favor of any kind of marriage unless it is my own.

I am in favor of everyone having equal rights to marry. This is playing into the hands of the far right who want to keep making this about gays and gay marriage. The reality is that it has nothing to do with gay marriage and everything to do with being treated equally under the law. We need to pound this truth into people's heads over and over. And one good way to begin to do this would be to always say "I am for marriage equality."

[izquierdista]

1. Once again, the right starts off ahead

As you point out, they are the masters of "framing", since you couldn't get far by saying "I'm against marriage equality". Got to throw the word 'gay' in there so there is a boogey-man.

[levander]

3. No, they'll just say they're for marriage equality too...

And, that marriage is for a man and a woman, just like they have been saying.

I like saying I'm for gay marriage. It's up-front about what I believe in.

But the thing is, this is becoming more and more accepted by the country as time goes on. It's just a matter of time. But, for the homosexuals out there, it's got to be agonizing and frustrating waiting for people to eventually come to the truth.

[damntexdem]

2. OK, but I'm still in favor of gay marriage.

Meaning that I'm for marriage equality.

[DuaneBidoux]

5. I guess anyone can say it anyway they want.

I personally am for marriage if someone wants to get married.

[lunatica]

4. I'm truly against marriage for myself

It's so much better to be alone than in bad company. Two is enough

[Yavin4]

6. I Agree. The Framing Is What Kills. The Correct Frame Should Be

I believe that ALL Americans should have FULL citizenship rights under our constitution.

That frame applies not only to marriage equality but DADT, and other issues.

[JoeyT]

7. Or we could

just say we favor equal civil rights for all.
That's usually how I say it.

[Prism]

8. When we get semantic, the Right wins

It's odd how only LGBT rights are constantly embroiled in these games of vocabulary - and they're usually pretty denigrating to LGBT individuals. What these semantic vocabulary sessions really do is give quarter to conservatives. It gives them greater power to control the frame, it says to them "Well, you may have a point here. Let's put it this way instead . . ."

No, they have no point. No, they have no right to frame this. No, they should not be shown any kind of weakness by shuffling words to appease their ignorance and bigotry.

Marriage equality, equality, gay marriage - it's all the same thing. We should use whatever we're comfortable with. The idea that gay marriage is some kind of special, separate entity is the right-wing frame, and I will fight them on that. I'm not letting them that win or that frame.

It's a bit like the civil union debates. "Well, what you really want are civil unions. Let's call it that."

Sure. As soon as everyone else has to start referring to their children as wards instead of son or daughter.

Words are perfectly good just as they are. We shouldn't give them up just because the Right says boo. Unlike our President, I ain't ascared of them.