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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:35 PM
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Of course Obama talks differently to different groups. So do most politicians.
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Of course Obama talks differently to different groups. So do most politicians.
By Christopher Beam
Posted Monday, Jan. 11, 2010, at 6:33 PM ET


Harry Reid's comment that Barack Obama could get elected because he was a "light-skinned" African American "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one," may not have been artfully put. But subtract the poor choice of words—Negro sounds more fuddy-duddy than racist—and the statement, reported in the book Game Change, is fairly uncontroversial. Not only is it undeniable that Obama's skin tone and way of speaking had something to do with his election. Reid was praising Obama for one of the oldest political skills there is: the ability to adjust one's speech, and one's mannerisms, to different audiences.

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Anyone who wants to represent a state or a country composed of different ethnic groups needs to find ways to relate to each of them. In New Mexico, that might mean learning some rudimentary Spanish. In South Carolina, it's droppin' your G's. In Wisconsin, it's knowing your cheddar varietals. Some call it pandering. Others call it campaigning.

Not only is code-switching standard in U.S. politics, it's necessary. The last president who spoke in a flat, patrician, newscaster style was George H.W. Bush. Every president since then has spoken a mixture. Bill Clinton could turn on the Southern twang. George W. Bush could, too, with an evangelical flavor. Those who can't, suffer. John McCain, says John McWhorter, a linguist at the Manhattan Institute, lost in part because of the way he talks—stiff, nasal, unfolksy.

Future candidates will learn the hard way. "Mitt Romney will not go anywhere because he cannot be verbally warm," McWhorter says. "If Republicans have a great white hope—of any race—they have to be able to not sound like a Republican."

Within reason, of course. Change your accent too much, and you sound like a fake. When Barack Obama tells a cashier at Ben's Chili Bowl, "Nah, we straight," it doesn't sound put on—even thought it may be. When Michael Steele says he's going to "come to table with things that will surprise everyone—off the hook," he sounds nearly as out-of-touch as Harry Reid. And Reid, when he made his controversial comments, was engaging in his own kind of code-switching. It's hard to imagine him saying the same things in front of Obama himself—or any African-American—rather than two middle-aged white reporters.

As much as American politicians code-switch, however, they don't do it nearly as much as politicians in other countries. What in the United States is implicit—oh, Hillary's doing her cowgirl thang again—is explicit in countries like Canada, where politicians literally have to speak two different languages. Two of Canada's greatest politicians, Brian Mulroney and Pierre Trudeau, were able to speak English as native English speakers and French as native French speakers—huge assets in a country where speakers of one language judge outsider politicians harshly. Likewise, politicians in Taiwan often employ the country's various languages—Mandarin, Taiwanese, Japanese—to make a political point. In a crowd with many different ethnicities, for example, a politician might switch among languages in order to symbolically smooth tensions.

American code-switching is relatively subtle. And Obama, ironically, is one of its more subtle practitioners. As Zadie Smith pointed out in her essay on Obama and language, his speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention demonstrated his ability to pivot nimbly between cultures, sometimes in a single sentence: " 'We worship an awesome God in the blue states, and we don't like federal agents poking around our libraries in the red states.' Awesome God comes to you straight from the pews of a Georgia church; poking around feels more at home at a kitchen table in South Bend, Indiana." If Harry Reid noticed it then, he held his tongue.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:40 PM
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1. Just want to mention
that in the Black world, Obama is not considered "Light-Skinned".

Hell, it's hard to even look at him and conclude that he is Mixed!
Nearly half of the Black population in the US are lighter than Obama.

In addition, Obama's features are clearly those of a Black man.

Further, Barack Obama married a brown skinned woman,
and is raising brown skinned children.

In that context, Barack Obama didn't run away from his Blackness,
he went in search of it.

And I agree that the fact that he can speak the King's English as well as being able to keep it real
is a good thing.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:50 PM
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3. This post wasn't really about how he looks, but what he says and
how he says it. I could care less about the looks btw; I'm just really happy that he's obviously so much more thoughtful and intelligent than his predecessor. And I love the fact that he treats us as intelligent adults. Such a nice change!
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:58 PM
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6. A lot of people don't know that, Frenchie.
A lot of people don't even think about blacks with different complexions in the same family, let alone getting sun tans. :rofl: I'm serious.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:49 PM
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2. actually, so do most people
I know I don't talk the same in a meeting at work as I do at home with my cats :D
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:51 PM
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4. I think George H.W. Bush turned it on and off, too
Remember when he would eat pork rinds and listen to the Oak Ridge Boys? Double barf for me, but some people responded to it.

What gets me is when they get (any of them) into the cadence of a southern minister. That drives me BATS. I actually told an Obama phone pollster that, very early in the primaries. He sounded completely stumped, and he said to me, "but - but - that's what people WANT". I was pretty polite, but I did tell him, "you asked for MY opinion and it's certainly not what *I* want!"

Even when I supported Edwards, I could barely stand his thick accent. I greatly, greatly liked the way John Kerry spoke - and he didn't alter it much - but I know I was in the minority on that.

I do have a little disagreement when you say speaking the King's English and "keeping it real" - as if there's something not real about using good English. It's real enough for some people.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:00 PM
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7. That was insane in the fact that he and his handlers made presumptions
about what people "wanted" to hear in different states. When he came to New Mexico, he pushed the phony Texan, and people around here were baffled.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:06 PM
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8. It's a Black saying that I am using, "Keeping it real" meaning
one understanding their blackness and not trying to run away with it,
just simply because one has a larger bank account or losta of education.

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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:04 PM
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11. I know what it means
but I disagree with the premise - why can't people just be who they are?
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:54 PM
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5. Generally the poeple you are talking to pick up on it
It's why people refer to politicians as whores.

I'm from Long Island originally. If George Bush, Bill Clinton or even Obama came there and tryed to talk in a Long Island accent a lot of us would think they were idiots for it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:14 PM
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9. It's fun to mix it up and
I'm glad Pres Obama can do that. Wouldn't it be boring to be the same all the time? And, some are given opportunities to be the President of the USA and get down with your homies on the B Court.:P
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:26 PM
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10. So do most humans
Just sayin'...
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