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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 01:13 AM
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Remember when McCain was surging in PA?
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 01:13 AM by Drunken Irishman
And everyone was freaking out because a couple polls had him within one or two points? Even though other polls had Obama with a healthy lead?

Yeah. I think I'm having that flashback right now.

Not saying it's a slamdunk by any means. However, been there, done that...
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 01:13 AM
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1. This has to do with Kennedy's old seat?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 01:17 AM
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2. Si.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 01:21 AM
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3. Why is this seat so competitive?
This is a Democratic stronghold? Correct?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 01:43 AM
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7. I'm not so sure it is all that competitive.
But it isn't a typical election. It's not like either have had time to campaign. And remember, Ted Kennedy isn't running. Every time a seat is vacated by a Big Name, it loses some of its luster for the party that owned it.

It isn't like Mass. hasn't gone Republican in a state race, either. Remember, they did elect Romney. And remember, a very well known Kerry 'only' won his last election 66-31. While not really competitive, that was in 2008 - a major election year.

This is more competitive due to the fact it's a special election.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 04:04 AM
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8. Good Post

Coakley is caught in between knowing that she really should win and needing to make sure that the base is energized enough, in a special election, that people actually get out and vote. It's not an easy line to walk, but I think she'll do just fine.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 01:24 AM
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4. If there's a panic that will get Democrats out to the polls,
I'm all for the scare tactic.

After all, Obama won Penn by what, 10 points? :shrug:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 01:28 AM
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5. i also remember Joementum (or whatever you call that) during 2004
how after him coming in last place in Iowa he was surging in NH
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 01:39 AM
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6.  Most of the polls have Coakley with a lead so I tend to agree with
This assessment. However this is really crunch time.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:20 AM
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9. Viagra
:shrug:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:22 AM
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10. I recall when people were suckered by cheap media polls
into thinking and saying a whole lot of things- this instance included,
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:09 AM
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11. See, this is so unususal because the US media is ethical and responsible,
dedicated to providing fair and honest news so that the American people can make good decisions from accurate information.

Santa Claus told me so himself...

mark
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:27 AM
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12. For a time, there was responsible regulation
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 08:28 AM by depakid
That of course was before a fake cowboy who never went to church- whose own second wife ran his schedule via the occult. convinced so many, even the child from a previous marriage that he rejected- that the USA ought to become all that he professed to hate.

An evil empire- his own words and the actions of his administration will resonate throughout history- just as so many others have in tragedies before.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 10:14 AM
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16. I remember the good old days well - I am sorry that young people won't
have a real understanding of all that was lost.


mark
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:46 AM
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13. Different political atmosphere....
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 08:47 AM by Clio the Leo
.... the folks who were "fired up!" were us and the middle who was fired up against the powers that be. Now the powers that be are us ... and the people who are fired up have tea bags hanging from their hats. They are also convinced that Democratic leadership are agents for Satan and this "Obamacare" will kill your grandma.

The President and John Kerry have both made pleas to Dems in Mass to appeal for votes and money ... and the DSCC just spent a chunk of change yesterday to run some ads.

It's never good to take anything for granted.

Remember when the New Hampshire polls had Obama ahead the weekend before the '08 primary?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:21 AM
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15. Just pray it doesn't snow on election day.
That would kill our turnout.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 08:52 AM
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14. I totally agree. Also, the situation in MA is also an effect of what the media are.
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 08:53 AM by Mass
I thought we learned the lesson in 2004. Dont expect the media to tell the truth.

Scott Brown is out of the mainstream Republican party of MA, a very conservative Republican. You could have hoped the media call him on his attempt to appear like a moderate Republican. They did not.

This week, the Coakley campaign and third party ads are starting to show who he really is, but this effort should have be done weeks ago.
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