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LiberalLions Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:36 PM
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(R) Brown 47% (D)Coakley 44% - Coakley Internals
Steve Kornacki has written about politics for the New York Observer and Roll Call, and his work has also appeared in the New York Times

I've been told reliably that Martha Coakley's internal poll for Thursday night showed her trailing Scott Brown by three points -- 47 to 44 percent.

http://stevekornacki.blogspot.com/2010/01/coakley-internal-brown-3.html
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:40 PM
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1. Coakley leaked the bad end of her polling spectrum
to make sure Obama shows up. It's that simple.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:42 PM
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2. How do you know this?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:44 PM
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4. Because they wouldn't leak a bad poll
like this without an ulterior motive. It does them no good.


Having worked on polling for a major campaign, I can tell you that they run all kinds of internal polls. They run best case and worst case scenarios.

This is almost certainly a "worst case". Could happen. But you don't leak a worst case poll unless you want to motivate someone to do something.
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ElmoBlatz Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:04 PM
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9. Sounds like a dumb strategy to me
By leaking the worst case poll, seems to me all they are doing is firing up the other team. A month ago Brown didn't have a chance. Now he apparently does. Leaking that he's actually LEADING fires up his base, and depresses ours. Explain to me how thats a good plan?

If its to the get the President to do something, surely you can get word to him without leaking it.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:10 PM
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10. The assumption is:
Brown has maxed out his base. They are ALL going to vote. You can't fire them up more.
Our base, however, is far from maxed out, and needs a kick in the ass.

That said, if this doesn't work, the worst case polling will be right, and we will lose.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:44 PM
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14. Right. You don't have to release an internal poll. Also, this leaves about 8-9% undecided
most of which would break for her or the Libertarian dude.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:54 PM
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7. I hope you are right
I was thinking the same thing - that she wouldn't leak a bad poll unless she was trying to scare up support. It's risky, though - it could wake up some apathetic Democrats, but it could also add to the perception that Brown has the momentum.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:57 PM
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8. Clearly the numbers concern them.
I would guess even their best numbers aren't where any of us would like them to be. And remember, even a worst case scenario poll can be true, if turnout totally goes against us...
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:44 PM
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3. Anyone who thinks that they know the internals is a fool
not that there aren't a lot of suckers out there. Seems to be in many people's nature to be saps.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:46 PM
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5. See also: Phonebank from home for Martha Coakley- Stop Scott Brown!
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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 08:54 PM
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6. Here's Real Clear Politics polls on this race.....
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:21 PM
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11. There were fools who believed that Christie could not beat Corzine in NJ
Based on the ludicrous notion that a so-called "blue" state wouldn't elect a Republican.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:24 PM
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12. most everyone admits that Brown can win here
it's a matter of assessing probabilities at this point.
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LiberalLions Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:30 PM
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13. Maybe she leaked it
I just spoke with a Politico reporter online that believes Coakley leaked the poll to get Obama there
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:53 PM
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 10:00 PM
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16. That leak is meant to get Dens to the polls n/t
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 10:26 PM
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17. How do you know this?
:shrug:
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 10:43 PM
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18. see the above.
if there wasn't a motive, it wouldn't have been leaked.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 11:05 PM
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20. I Hope it works.
I have a bad feeling though.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 11:03 PM
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19. I haven't followed this race. How did this happen? Is she just a bad candidate?
What happened?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 11:26 PM
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21. Very complacent candidate. She didn't seem to care about the race until
her numbers started plunging.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 02:19 AM
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24. A bad candidate. And worse:
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dcsmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 11:28 PM
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22. R any of the Kennedy's campaigning for her...
that would help
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 01:59 AM
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23. thanks for your concern, NotSoLiberalLiens
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 06:21 AM
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25. And kornacki knows that because?
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 07:09 AM
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26. This special election is ALL about GOTV. If Dems come out, she wins. Simple as that. So GOTV !
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 10:14 AM
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27. 47-44 within margin of error and with dem edge in MA a massive gotv should give her the win.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 10:25 AM
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28. This is why I voted for Khazei in the primary. Sigh.
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