Eeyores....

[FrenchieCat]

Eeyores are folks that demoralize everyone that they are around.
They talk of dark futility and deep despair.

Hints that you might be having an encounter with an Eeyore:
They talk about the future in the past tense.
They ask folks to blame someone specifically for a failing that hasn't failed yet.
They preach the Self fulfilling prophecy Gospel......
and can make you believe that they are right in their call of the cause and effect
of something that hasn't yet happened.

There are actual websites out there that teaches "How to be an Eeyores" to Bloggers
and activists....and then send them out to demoralize whomever takes the bait.
http://hillbuzz.org/2009/12/07/using-concern-troll-tactics-against-the-left-help-push-independents-away-from-democrats/

Chuck Todd is an Eeyore.

Here's was his take on October 1, during the General Election....

This morning, Chuck Todd and the rest of MSNBC's political team crunches the polls and shifts its electoral map in favor of Obama, with a couple of real surprises:

Four new states have been added to our Toss-up category: three red states (Florida, Indiana, and North Carolina) and one blue state (Pennsylvania). This gives Obama a 212-174 edge, after his more narrow 233-227 lead last week.
What's interesting about these shifts is that while Obama is showing an improvement in fast-growing states (CO, FL, NV, NC, VA), he can't seem to put away the Northern tier states of slow-growing states (MI, PA, WI) or make progress in what some believe is still the all-important state of OH.

So it's now...

Likely Obama: CA, CT, DE, DC, HI, IL, ME, MD, MA, NY, RI, VT (157 electoral votes)
Lean Obama: IA, MN, NJ, NM OR, WA (55 votes)

Toss-up: CO, FL, IN, MI, NV, NH, NC, OH, PA, VA, WI (152 votes)

Lean McCain: MO, MT (14 votes)

Likely McCain: AL, AK, AZ, AR, GA, ID, KS, KY, LA, MS, NE, ND, OK, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, WV, WY (160 votes)
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/msnbc_electoral_map_shifts_tow.php

Remember the PA race during the GE to get my drift.
Now, use the search function and look for thread titles
with PA in it during the time period here at DU, of October 29th through November 4th.

And also what some in the Media were saying on October 29th, 5 days before the election:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27439060

What 538 was saying at the time:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/pennsylvania-sanity-check.html



So if someone "feels" like they have just ran across an Eeyore,
chances are that this is true.




Whatever Eeyore is pronouncing, think opposite,
and go ahead and try to make a difference,
instead of shrugging your shoulders feeling helpless.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/votercontact/login?requested=%2Fpage%2Fvotercontact%2Fmake_calls%3Fcampaign_id%3DfnrU




Just sayin'

[apocalypsehow]

1. Sexy eyelashes! More substantively, excellent OP. Kick, Rec.

:thumbsup:

[FrenchieCat]

2. Eeyores also like the unrec function here at DU.......

It makes their job that much easier. :rofl:

[dionysus]

5. but don't you DARE unrec their threads! post #2 on those is the OP going;

"YOU COWARDS!!1!!1 *self soil* YOU UNRECCED MEEEEeee!!1!"

[HughMoran]

6. It helps to spread their misery

;)

[WeDidIt]

3. Brilliant post, Frenchie

I suspect a herd of Eeyores will be descending on this thread to mass unrec and mass troll it.

Such a truth cannot stand for the Eeyores.

[dionysus]

4. kickety kick kick, & rec

:patriot:

[Hutzpa]

7. Excellent Frenchie

excellent, here lies the bada bing bada bong.....

Over coming this should be a must.


Heck, you had to get me outta my sickness bed,

back to my sickness bed with this swine flu.


:thumbsup:

[FrenchieCat]

8. You take care of yourself, hear?

We need as many anti-Eeyores as possible manning the big ship in during the turn.....

[Hutzpa]

10. Will do

thank you, working hard to stay healhty I'm almost there, just need to keep taking my
medication.

[SeattleGirl]

9. Happy to be rec #5, Frenchie

And what you posted is so spot on. There are some people in the world who just can't seem to grasp and hold on to a good thought at all.

[Pirate Smile]

11. Ha - it got unrec'ed down to 4 and then I gave it a 5th also.

:hi:

[struggle4progress]

12. Well, the hillbuzz link was an eye-opener: folk, who really supported McCain but

pushed Clinton in the primaries because they (rightly or wrongly) thought McCain could beat her more easily than Obama in the general election, whining that their strategy was screwed over by concern-trolling leftists! :rofl: As hillbuzz is now vaunting eeyorism, I'd bet ten-to-one some of the concern-trolling eeyores of yesteryear were the very authors of the hillbuzz post

I might have to start posting eeyore! as a response to some of this behavior at DU

[Spazito]

26. LOL, not a bad idea at all!

It says alot in and of itself. I might just have to do the same, lol.

[TheBigotBasher]

32. Kevin Dujan owns HillBuzz

Here he is meeting not Hillary Clinton

http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834515c5469e20128766d463d970c-800wi

He is a racist piece of shit who lives in Chicago. He is promoting the Anti Semite Andy Martin by running smear stories about Republican Mark Kirk.

Anyway -he reads DU

http://hillbuzz.org/2010/01/16/head-scratcher-of-the-day-liberals-accuse-us-of-teaching-you-to-be-eeyores-and-trolls-against-them/

Hi Kevin

[struggle4progress]

34. DuJan, the supposed "lifelong Democrat" who founded "DeMcCrats for McCain"?

He sounds like a professional disruptor

[TheBigotBasher]

35. That is him

Dutifully rewarded by the GOP who lavished him at a VIP reception, where the top 200 GOP members heard Michael Steele praise him for his work.

[struggle4progress]

39. It's hilarious that he claims to have invented "eeyore" during HClinton's run:

here's the term used in the comments on a Sam Seder page back in August 2006 --

*

The problem with liberals is they do not have a comprehensive plan they are presenting to the voters. The voters are looking for a good reason to vote for them and are not seeing one.

Posted by: Anonymous at August 17, 2006 8:19 PM

Just great. Eeyore cum concern troll is back.

*
http://www.samsedershow.tv/Archives/majorityreport/archives/2006/08/hour_two_thursday_2.php

[NatBurner]

53. they *almost* sound rational until they start drooling over palin

it's hard to take them seriously when they bolster their argument with sarah's "courage and fortitude" lol

yeah, i'm looking at YOU papajoe-

dude, wtf?

[elleng]

13. Eeyore has a birthday

"Good morning, Pooh Bear," said Eeyore gloomily. "If it is a good morning," he said. "Which I doubt," said he.
"Why, what's the matter?"
"Nothing, Pooh Bear, nothing. We can't all, and some of us don't. That's all there is to it."
"Can't all what?" said Pooh, rubbing his nose.
"Gaiety. Song-and-dance. Here we go round the mulberry bush."


http://www.winnie-pooh.org/eeyore-birthday-presents.htm

[SeattleGirl]

16. +1,000!

[Hekate]

18. Eeyore gets a busted balloon and an empty honey-pot for his b-day, iirc. Self-fulfilling prophecy...

... in full force, lest we forget.

Hekate

[boppers]

14. +1. eom

[kayla9170]

15. K/R.....

+1

[KakistocracyHater]

17. so..........what's the difference btw Eeyore & 'red teaming'?

am I one? I kept suggesting Berlin Food Drop & nothing more for Afghanistan-am I one?:shrug:

[Hekate]

19. 15th Rec, Frenchie dear. TY for those timely words of reminder. nt

[TexasObserver]

20. Barrel of gas...check; matches...check. More flamebait.

[FrenchieCat]

21. How is that?

I check the threads here at GDP today, and Eeyore headlines are everywhere......threads about how we lost the MA race already (talking about the future in past tense), and threads saying who's fault it is (putting blame on someone specifically about something that hasn't happened yet), etc....

The telltale signs are there as to what an Eeyore does. Simply pointing it out is not flamebait, as far as I'm concerned....it's reminding folks that nothing positive ever gets done if people are approaching an issue negatively. period.

[Aramchek]

23. bitter downer...check, cut 'n paste tripe...check

[Aramchek]

22. you're real close, but Chuck is actually an Eewhore

;)

[FrenchieCat]

28. An Eewhore! LOL!

See, that's funny to me! :rofl:

[Top Cat]

24. Kick

[rufus dog]

25. LOL, I knew you must have hit it out of the park when I saw plus 23 an your name

My favorite reply is a negative that is in at least two other threads.

edit: and it is plus 24 now.

[Spazito]

27. Well said!

Eeyores they are, indeed!

Recommended.

[wyldwolf]

29. closely related to Glums

We're doomed... we'll never make it...

[Fire1]

30. DU is full of them. n/t

[Bobbie Jo]

49. +1

Yep.

[omega minimo]

31. They don't impeach or investigate Bush and Cheney ...........

[TheBigotBasher]

33. No he ran a love piece for * and Darth instead

His site has promoted by Rush Limpballs so to keep his audience pressing that donate button he ran this love letter to the Shrub

http://hillbuzz.org/2009/11/10/thank-you-former-president-george-w-bush-and-former-first-lady-laura-bush/

[omega minimo]

36. who/what are you talking about?

[treestar]

37. The permanently unhappy

And determined to stay that way.

:kick:

[treestar]

38. Holy Crap, look at this:

From that site:

Lwelsh Says:

December 8, 2009 at 9:43 am
I think we need to encourage our liberal acquaintances that the Democrat party is not liberal enough for them and that they need to found “The Liberal Party”. They need to work hard to make it happen and spend all their time and money going in that direction.

http://hillbuzz.org/2009/12/07/using-concern-troll-tactics-against-the-left-help-push-independents-away-from-democrats/

[Hekate]

40. Well, well, well... When we find an Eeyore offering us thistles here, shall we post that link?...

... so that all can see where this comes from? :grr:

Hekate

[Hello_Kitty]

48. ZOMG!!1! WE'VE BEEN DUPED!!1!!1

:eyes:

[wisteria]

41. Thanks for the great information. I will keep that in mind. n/t

[backscatter712]

42. I'm starting to call them Marvins now...

after Marvin the Paranoid Android.

You've read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, have you not?

[cherokeeprogressive]

43. Tomorrow, I was talking with a friend. She was going to say that we had been standing in the middle

of the street. I wanted to ask her what was on her mind, but then realized that I was thinking I should have had the chicken soup instead of the sandwich while the waitress was thinking about bringing me the bill.

Now, I was about to smack my dad for not setting the hook on the bluegill that was going to drag his bobber under the water when I looked up and realized that the Sun was going down a little while ago.

How strange things are, when you really thought about it.

The next time there is an election, I voted for the candidate who was about to make the largest and most lucrative promises. After all, I know when promises are real, and when they were spoken in order to win the upcoming election.

My President promises me that we were on the verge of something great. He said he hoped that Change was on the horizon, and added the promise that things were already better.

[Born_A_Truman]

44. Being played by Palin groupies...

[FrenchieCat]

45. As stupid as the American electorate appears to be,

Palin may just be the next President....

something I used to laugh at,
that I no longer do.

[Romulox]

46. It seems to me that the reward of Pollyanna-ism is what we have now.

The OP certainly hasn't held anyone's feet to the flame, that's for certain. :hi:

[FrenchieCat]

50. I didn't need to, that's what you did....now we can't even fucking walk,

and you won't get jack shit for your troubles.

I'm a pragmatic, so I never expected as much as you did....
so I don't have as much to lose.

You on the other hand get nothing; nothing now, nothing soon, and it is starting to look,
like you will make sure nobody gets nothing ever.

Good job.



:hi:

[Romulox]

52. Why is every post of yours like some horrible, horrible, non-rhyming limerick?

:shrug:

[Bobbie Jo]

47. Kick....there's more!

Too late to rec.



What needs to happen is this:

(1) We need to concern troll the concern trolls; go on their sites, pretend to agree with everything Dr. Utopia stood for in the campaign, and just put it out there how disappointed we are that he’s not being Liberal enough. Propel the meme that “this is not what we were promised!”

(2) Lunatic fringe groups like Code Pink and Moveon.org need to be revved up — make them go after Democrats they don’t think are Liberal enough…get them to force every bad Democrat out there into being MORE Liberal than they are now. Have these nuts drive people like Barney Frank, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Pat Murphy, John Murtha, and other BONKERS.

(3) Do everything possible to encourage the far Left to throw all their chips in, right here right now. Make the biggest push to the Left this country has ever seen…and make sure Independents see what is going on.

If Independents are driven away by too much Liberalism, and if we can stoke the Left into being as Liberal as possible, then 2010 will be an epic disaster for Democrats — who, after the way they behaved in 2008 and are behaving now, deserve to lose big.

Instead of concern trolling to dampen their spirits, which is what they did to Hillary and McCain supporters last year, we should troll to pump up their most Liberal firebrands…so those nuts can kamikaze the entire DNC with their zealotry.

http://hillbuzz.org/2009/12/07/using-concern-troll-tact... /

Familiar as hell, no?

[boston bean]

51. You are a very divisive person, Frenchie. This eeyore shit shouldn't see the light of

day on a democratic board.

[ima_sinnic]

54. yes, more name-calling--quel surpris!

notice that some names are subject to instant deletion while others, well, not so much.
those who truly care that the Democratic Party is going downhill as a way-station for disaffected right-leaning republicans and conservatives are sneered at and ridiculed, while those who embrace the status quo and preach the virtues of wishy-washy, compromised, unprincipled "centrism" and DLC corruption are the new "rulers" here.
oh well, it's not like this is the only forum on the Internet for intelligent, thinking people or anything. I find myself spending less and less time here nowadays, as being called names by inane self-righteous status-quo lovers does not really do much for my blood pressure and is a huge waste of time.

[highplainsdem]

55. FrenchieCat, if anyone here posted a thread called "Cheerleaders..." to attack DUers they disagreed

with and give a lengthy, mocking explanation of what they saw as wrong with that attitude, you'd be among the first to Alert and would probably be complaining about it in the BOG, too.

A thread posted ONLY to encourage name-calling -- there doesn't seem to be any other purpose to your OP -- is juvenile beyond belief, and really should be beneath anyone posting here. I like to think all of you are adults, and it's time to start sounding like it.

This topic should be locked.

[ima_sinnic]

56. so what do we call all the people who said single payer "could never pass"?

the ones who said "the votes weren't there" before a bill was even introduced?

an eeyore is just another donkey, kind of like the donkey of the so-called New Democrats, whose slogan is "No We Can't"

[ima_sinnic]

57. **crickets** funny how that works

[TheKentuckian]

58. AKA shut up and be happy with the Rainbow Reagan party

also we'll be needing you guys to sell our crappy policies, knock on doors, donate, phone bank, generally act like you're 200% on board, and lap up whatever slop is offered and love it.

Look sister, I didn't sign up for a good looking family, great speeches, upgrade on Bush, and right wing/privatization policies.

Going into a thunderstorm and saying that the sun is shining is both stupid and dishonest. Observation of reality isn't being Eeyore anymore than being positive in light of good news.

[ima_sinnic]

59. +1000 yes, put on a smiley face while being kicked--and be sure to vote for us!