"The Goode Family" appears to be Mike Judge's attempt to mock conservationists.

[Hello_Kitty]

http://farm.imdb.com/title/tt1183569/

So when can we expect his Libertarian satire of fundies, teabaggers, and assorted other reactionaries? Does he really think that environmentalists pose the biggest threat to his freedom? I've got news for him.

BTW, the cartoon is not funny at all. I say this as someone who laughs my ass off at South Park, despite the way that his characters on that show preach libertarian dreck.

EDIT TO ADD: Mike Judge is not a writer for South Park and I apologize for the mix up. Still, I laugh my ass off at Beavis and Butthead, King of the Hill, and Office Space, and still find nothing funny about The Goode Family.

[Bolo Boffin]

1. Mike Judge did Beavis and Butthead, and King of the Hill, not South Park. n/t

[Ken Burch]

2. The "South Park" characters DO preach libertarian dreck, though

And the show DOES casually repeat the slanderous insinuation that gays are child molesters as well.

(Not that that's Mike Judge's fault, it's Trey Parker's and Matt Stone's, but still...)

[Hello_Kitty]

5. Yeah, but I was wrong to mix them up. eom

[Ken Burch]

8. No problem

The issues with that show remain.

[Rebubula]

29. South Park

It would seem as though you do not actually watch South Park very much. I have watched since the original Christmas special and they seem supportive of gay causes.

They even had an episode where Big Gay Al was kicked out of the scouts because the narrow minded people of South Park were afraid of just that (molest kids). They replaced him with a seemingly uber-masculine married jarhead that went on to molest the kids. Another episode showed the "Super Adventure Club' that saw hetero men travel the world to molest children.

Both Trey and Matt are gay and Big Gay Al is one of the most beloved characters.

[Ken Burch]

34. Do you have a cite on Parker and Stone's sexual orientation?

If they are gay, it's weird that they continually take such an anti-liberal perspective on things. You'd think they'd remember which side of the spectrum will defend and which side won't(I'm not talking about our political leaders, of course).

[Rebubula]

37. I apologized below...

...for my seemingly incorrect statement about their sexuality. I will take my punishment.

However, I stand by my statement about you being incorrect about them positing the idea that gays molest kids. Having watched the show for years, I can point out many positive gay themed episodes.

Now..as for politics, they seem to be equal opportunity. They insult everyone without apology. Matt Stone has been quoted as saying that he hates conservatives as well as liberals.

ON EDIT - Still hoping that you will answer your post below about Idiocracy....

[Milo_Bloom]

35. Trey and Matt are not gay.

[Rebubula]

36. I stand corrected...

...with apologies to both of them.

There is much speculation, but neither has said anything either way.

I suck for posting crap.

[Milo_Bloom]

38. NP. I think they revel in the ambiguity.

We have mutual friends and I have met them a couple of times.. I can say with as much certainty as someone who doesn't personally know them well that they are not gay.

[Rebubula]

39. You have met them???

Are they as cool as they seem from a distance?

[Milo_Bloom]

44. Yes.

Really normal guys when you meet them. It's not like we hung out, so I can't say I had an in depth conversation or even got to experience their full personalities. I am good friends with some of their friends, and have worked with the same people, so every once in a great while, our paths cross.

[Puzzler]

43. Actually... in the Scout episode at the last moment...

... it seemed they sided with the Scouts "freedom" to do what they want. At least that was the "message" at the end of the show.

[Arkana]

33. Yeah but their World of Warcraft episode was nothing short of hilarious.

[Hello_Kitty]

3. Christ, you're right. Sorry.

And I laugh my ass off at Beavis and Butthead and King of the Hill, but not this.

[Ken Burch]

4. Don't wait up. Judge never mocks social conservatives

A lot of "King of the Hill" could've been written by Sarah Palin(if she could write complete sentences in English, that is.)

[Drunken Irishman]

9. I think KOTH fits the typical Texan stereotype.

A lot of backward nutso characters.

Granted, the Hills were good folk - but their town was crazy.

The Goode Family isn't nearly as subtle.

[Hello_Kitty]

10. He sure likes to mock environmentalists, though, based on the show I'm watching.

Environmentalists are total scumbag hypocrites, according to Mike Judge.

[JVS]

11. Judge engages in gentle correction with them.

Hank is on the square but game for light mockery. Dale is a nutbag who needs the moderate influence of Hank.

[spoony]

15. Not so. One of the first episodes of KOTH took fundies to task

for "Halloween hell houses." And the biggest bumblefuck on the show is Dale, the RW militia type.

Also, do I not recall Idiocracy correctly? Wasn't that a skewering of an anti-intellectual society?

[Ken Burch]

24. Actually, IDIOCRACY was about Judge's opposition to reproductive choice

Judge was essentially blaming the situation on smarter people not being FORCED to have children.

[Rebubula]

27. REALLY???

That is what you got out of that movie??

Looked to me that he was blaming both sides that created a perfect storm of stupidity. I was more concerned that we were forced to watch Maya Rudolph act...that was painful.

[PVnRT]

30. Huh????????

Where the hell do you get this stuff?

[Drunken Irishman]

6. Judge was money with King of the Hill because he lampooned 'em with a subtle nature.

Nothing subtle about The Goode Family.

[JVS]

7. Mike Judge has two original works: Office Space and Beavis and Butthead.

Everything else he does is derivations of Beavis and Butthead.

King of the Hill was simply the world according to Mr. Anderson (aka Hank Hill)

Daria should be self explanatory.

The Goode Family is essentially a Mr. Van Driesen spinoff.

Idiocracy was simply a world filled with clones of Beavis, Butthead, and Todd.

[Ken Burch]

13. "Daria" could more accurately be described as an escapee from "Beavis and Butthead"

And her stand-alone show was genius in a way that "B&B" could never be. I've always thought the cancellation of "Daria" was one of the great mistakes in television history.

[JVS]

14. I thought B&B was a great show.

of course, a lot of that is because I considered it an amusing way to air videos at a time when MTV was moving away from the format. It also meant that the time filled by the video wouldn't force Judge and company to create a plot line to fill the entire 15 minute episode.

[Bucky]

17. No, Van Driesen was genuinely funny. He made me laugh at my liberal self.

The Goodes are dumb liberals. But that's kind of exceptional; it's not what's funny about us. We're funny when we overthink, or when we are too accommodating or get side tracked on ancillary causes. Comedically speaking, he's shooting blanks.

[Hello_Kitty]

19. Exactly my point.

We're funny when we're being ourselves at our most ridiculous extremes, not some invention of John Stossel's wildest fantasy.

[pstokely]

21. Judge wasn't involved with Daria

nt

[Rebubula]

28. To be fair..

...her character started on the Beavis and Butthead show.

The show itself was created by others, but she started with Mike Judge.

[Ildem09]

12. i think it's tounge in cheek

if you think of the stereotypical liberal family its the goodes. i'm going to give the show a chance

[Hello_Kitty]

16. I live in a stereotypically liberal household.

We are well aware of our failings and hypocrisy. My problem is not with the politics of the show, it's with its lack of humor and its obvious agenda.

[Ildem09]

18. truth. that i will give you

[pa28]

20. That show deserved to be put out of it's misery.

"Idiocracy" is so funny it's worth watching twice. I don't understand how he could turn around and produce something as dull as "The Goode Family".

[Rebubula]

32. Idiocracy is happening

That movie makes me laugh everytime I see it.


Welcome to Costco....I Love you

[pstokely]

22. Why no Buzzcut spinoff?

nt

[JVS]

23. Isn't that what a cotton-heavy episode of koth is?

[boppers]

25. Should some people be above mockery?

The pretentious attitude is what makes it funny.

The people not "getting" why they are being mocked makes it even funnier.

It's like seeing a pot-smoking Prius driver....

They're so wrapped into their carefully crafted reality that they don't realize how many folks are pointing at them and giggling. Same story applies to Leviticus Christians who wear poly/cotton blends, orthodox jews and the bizarre "rabbit" scripture, and the people who obsessively buy plastic... to recycle.

[Rebubula]

26. Shhh...

...you know making fun of progressives is not cool...or funny.

I have not seen the Goode Family because it looks silly and annoying. However, every group needs to be lampooned....especially one that takes itself waaaaaayy too seriously sometimes. This thread proves that point.

You have to be able to laugh at yourself.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

40. What's wrong with a pot smoking prius driver?

[Hello_Kitty]

42. No one is above mockery but the show just isn't funny.

Too heavy handed or something, I don't know, it's just cringe-inducing. South Park does an excellent job of skewering hypocritical liberals and it makes it worth having to tolerate the libertarian pieties they spout. The Simpsons also does some funny stuff on environmentalists.

[Orsino]

31. His Goode family may be ridiculous...

...but they are less so than their hopelessly square neighbors.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

41. I'm pretty sure King of the Hill was a satire of fundies, teabaggers, and other reactionaries. (nt)