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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:39 AM
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Oh Shit! Zogby Predicts A Coakley Win.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:40 AM
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1. WOW! nt
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leftygolfer Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:40 AM
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2. Broken clocks...right....sometimes
let's hope this is one!
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:41 AM
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3. Sometimes I am amazed...
that he is even a pollster. Well, hopefully he's right on this one.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:42 AM
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4. FUCK!!!!!!!
That's the kiss of death.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:43 AM
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5. noticed he has no polling posted on his website
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 09:43 AM by bigdarryl
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:44 AM
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6. If memory serves, his overnight calls before the NH primary picked up Hillary's surge
I wonder if he's hearing something similar out of MA or if he's just winging it.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:06 AM
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16. Makes me wonder too. Some of the recent polls out there have
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 10:06 AM by Jennicut
26% of Dems voting for Brown and Obama's approval as less then 45%. These might be the likely voter models the pollsters think will be correct, but are they really correct? The models were wrong for the NH primary.
However, this is Zogby and overall his track record is not good.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:18 AM
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20. The polls had Coakley winning by 10 in the primary and she won by 20
So there is a recent precedent for pollsters getting it wrong with her, which Zogby might be factoring into his prediction. Whterhe that's scientific or not...

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:19 AM
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22. Very interesting. I guess the only thing we can do is wait and see.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:43 PM
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37. That is true. He doesn't have a very good record on regular
elections but he has nailed special elections and some primaries. I suspect he looks closely at the weaknesses in other polls and fine-tunes his own late poll with a better likely voter sample. What he has done that others haven't is account for the overwhelming female turnout advantage in special elections.
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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:47 PM
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45. Maybe he's good at predicting in New England.
And at understanding the impact of female turnout.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:45 AM
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7. Buzz, signs, bumper stickers, tweets do not translate into votes
Remember Sarah Palin. No one had bigger buzz than she did and yet Red States turned blue.

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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:45 AM
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8. Hmmmm....
Probably just wants to be the guy who gets it right, because apparently, no matter how wrong you are as a pollster, you continue to get paid by someone who wants to push a narrative!

But, that being said, for once I'm hoping he gets a TON of acclaim tomorrow for being the one guy who said she'd pull it off!
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:46 AM
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9. Who knows? Maybe he's right this time
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:46 AM
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10. LOL. warn us to put down the coffee, next time.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:47 AM
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11. fuck
I can't go with the world's worst pollster.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:48 AM
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12. This is a bid to restore his rep.
Seriously. He can't look any more the clown than he already does. So being wrong won't hurt him. If he calls it right, though, he looks like a genius and is the darling of the village again.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:53 AM
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13. Polls all over the place - PROVES Election Fraud eminent
The Diebold Fix is in
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:38 AM
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27. on sweet lord
tell me how they fix the polls? How do they determine who polling orgs call?
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:55 AM
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14. Did they poll it?
Yes, I know, they are the ones who did that ridiculous New Hampshire poll with Obama up by 10, but there have been other times when Zogby was right and other pollsters were wrong. Like, they predicted Hillary winning PA by 10 when a lot of pollsters had it much closer.

Zogby sometimes does nightly tracking, and often theirs is the last poll conducted and thus the most reflective of the shifts. I don't know why, but I feel like there's a good chance she will win, and I feel like we could be seeing another New Hampshire. Zogby is often contrarian but not always wrong that way.
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ObamaKerryDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:13 PM
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40. I agree. n/t
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:02 AM
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15. Damn, now I have given up all hope.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:12 AM
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Wish we'd been able to hear him explain WHY he felt this way. NT
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:12 AM
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17. The talking points are already out in case Coakley wins, I heard
a Repug this morning say that Acorn will steal the election for the Democrats.
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jn2375 Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:17 AM
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18. DONT CLICK ON VIDEO!!! picked up computer virus when I did
warning
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:19 AM
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21. The link is fine.
The only virus on the video is Hannity...
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:30 PM
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34. lol
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:17 AM
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19. The kiss of death.
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:22 AM
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23. Intrade ...
Posted on the Twitter thread too about this: Intrade is swinging a little. Probably nothing but last-minute buyers hoping for a lucky score, but still ... Martha's up 10, Brown's down 10. He's still way ahead, but the movement is at least nice.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:27 AM
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24. World's Worst Pollster? Ugh.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:36 AM
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25. Even a broken clock..... etc etc nt
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:37 AM
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26. KOD
Kiss of Death lol
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:38 AM
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28. UH OH!!!
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 11:42 AM by Cali_Democrat
Coakley is now finished.

Zogby's KISS OF DEATH!!!

:mad:
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:54 AM
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33. Pretty much my thought.
I mean, he could be right, but still... track record and all.
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:41 AM
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29. please let him be right, please let him be right!
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:43 AM
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30. I'll never forget that on the day before the election, he picked Kerry to win in OH.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:52 AM
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31. It's all over
:-)
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:53 AM
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32. Well, that's it--Brown's a sure thing now.
Zogby sucks ass.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:18 PM
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35. Damn. Thats not good news for her.
.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:26 PM
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36. Now it's official--SHE'S DOOMED!!!!
:cry:
rocktivity
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Obamacare Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:07 PM
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39. Keep hope alive folks
Zog could be right this time, we shall see!!
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:53 PM
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38. Ruh roh
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:16 PM
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41. Shew! He's walked it back...
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:45 PM
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44. We're all intimately familiar with Zogby's "hunches"
We're doomed.





lol
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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:39 PM
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42. That guy is worse that Rasmussen(sp?). He's always wrong. NT
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 03:43 PM
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43. Worst news all day
lol - Zogby is a DU troll :rofl:
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