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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:07 AM
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Brown is simultaneously for AND against HCR and why that's a good thing for us.
... at least from a political standpoint.

The only thing Democrats need to fear is fear itself
by Ezra Klein

To state some of the arguments of my earlier post more succinctly, the short-term danger of a Scott Brown victory is not Scott Brown in the Senate, or even 41 Republicans in the Senate. It's Democrats freaking out and abandoning the House bill. But on the merits, this is just absurd. If health-care reform was a good idea last week, it's a good idea next week -- and just as feasible.

The bill has left the Senate, can be passed by the House, and can be tweaked using the budget reconciliation process -- which is not some wild idea, given that Democrats initially considered running the whole bill through reconciliation. Nor is a Brown victory some national referendum on health-care reform: This is a special election in Massachusetts where a bad Democratic candidate has insulted Red Sox fans no less than twice. If anyone thinks Ted Kennedy would lose this election or vote to filibuster this bill, they've not said so aloud.

Finally, Brown opposes the national health-care reform bill even as he supports the virtually-identical Massachusetts health-care reform (the main difference between the two is that the national bill is more conservative, with more cost controls). His candidacy, as Jonathan Cohn points out, is evidence that health-care reform is popular once implemented, and becomes an article of faith even among Republicans.

That's not to downplay the downside for Democrats here: It's obviously bad for a political party to lose a safe Senate seat, particularly when it will be seen as proof that they're going to get crushed in the next election. But in the short-term, the Democrats' agenda is only doomed if they choose to doom it. And Nancy Pelosi, for one, has no intention of participating in that suicide. "Let's remove all doubt, we will have health care -- one way or another," Pelosi said in San Francisco. " just a question about how we would proceed. But it doesn't mean we won't have a health care bill."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/01/the_only_thing_democrats_need.html
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:24 AM
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1. HCR
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 10:28 AM by 90-percent
If the Dems passed Public Option or Single Payer Health Care Reform in 2009, they would win a super majority in the 2010 mid term elections.

Based on their tepid and ineffective political kabuki on HCR for most of 2009, they are insuring Republicans will increase their numbers in the 2010 Elections.

their performance in 2009 leads me to believe they only want the status quo and if we went out and gave them 65 seats in the Senate they would whine that they need at least 2/3 of the Senate on board to get anything done.

Jon Stewart put it in a nutshell last night that GWB did what ever the fuck he wanted even after the Dems won a majority in the House and Senate in 2006.

So it is EXTREMELY OBVIOUS that America is run by a corporatocracy, plutocracy or corporate fascism.

Our current state is simply TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. The people we elect seem not to give one rats ass about the suffering and struggle and dashed hopes and miserable lives of all of us struggling not to loose everything we worked for all our lives to get!

ALL OUR INSTITUTIONS HAVE FAILED US. But, they are still extremely effective in serving the needs of the corporations by literally taking from the people and giving to the FAT CATS.

The current distribution of wealth in our Country proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

the better part of me hopes Coakley wins for the good of us all, but thye rotten part of me wants the Teabagger to win to show the Dem's that YOU CAN'T TAKE US FOR GRANTED!

I'm leaning towards a third party, but, having read some stuff here, it is probably best if I work hard to only support PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES.

-90% Jimmy
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:33 AM
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2. Teabaggers don't care about consistency in their own candidates.
They'll call John Kerry a flip-flopper without hesitation, though. The hypocrisy would be startling were it not routine. :(
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