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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:13 PM
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Calm the FU&k Down!!!!
dodo brown is now between a rock and a hard place. If he toe the GOP line once in DC he is TOAST. If he vote with the dems, he is TOAST!

This is Teddy's seat no matter what and Mass is still very blue. They just lost their damn minds because our candidate was sorry as hell (bless her heart) and the repub ran from the teabaggers. Notice how the teabaggers were pretty much out of sight and he denied even knowing what they were?

The man is a one termer. He is going to piss Mass off. In the meantime we need to find a candidate WITH a personality and Credentials to run against him.
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Greenpeach Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:16 PM
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1. From your lips...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:18 PM
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2. Two years to get the brown out..
Thanks angee for some perspective.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:18 PM
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3. K & R
:thumbsup:
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:19 PM
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4. One of the Kennedy kids better start looking seriously at that seat..n/t
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:21 PM
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5. Ye spake
And so should it go.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:27 PM
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6. yep
the man is a one termer. He can't go left or right. He will be impotent!

He is like Roland Burris. He will be able to put United States Senator on his tombstone. Don't mean to be harsh, but that is it in a nutshell.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:32 PM
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7. That victory speech was VERY interesting...
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 11:32 PM by Clio the Leo
.... I know that much. He certainly wasn't up there shouting "YAY!!! THE GOP DID IT AGAIN!!!!"
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:38 PM
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14. he said the election WASN't a referendum on Obama
while running for senate dodo never really said anything bad about Obama. He know what time it is.

Obama might be down, but being down in Mass. is still hella good.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:44 PM
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19. And that Palin woman just congratulated the people of Mass....
... for electing an independent candidate!

http://twitter.com/SarahPalinUSA/status/7974317672

.... side note, that Twitter page is HIDEOUS. My eyes!
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:48 PM
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22. and brown is probably cussing under his breath
damn it sarah, now is not the time!
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:33 PM
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8. Maybe. And maybe he's running for President in 2012 or 2016. nt
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:34 PM
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9. exactly, he is up for re-election in less than 3 years and during a Presidential election
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:37 PM
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11. But in the mean time Obama gets nothing on his agenda done. By 2012 it'll be too late.
:rofl:
Bu then we'd have lost the house and the senate...and skating on losing the WH.

What is wrong with y'all?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:37 PM
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12. delete
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 11:38 PM by xultar
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:41 PM
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16. losing seats doesn't =losing senate or congress
Don't believe the hype and the spin of msm.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:43 PM
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18. I don't even watch the MSM.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:10 AM
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29. Right..wherever the Doom & Gloom comes
from..doesn't mean it's going to happen.

This is a bump in the road and meantime Pres Obama will continue doing the heavy lifing and we'll see how hard brown works for the people of Massachusetts.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:36 PM
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10. I hope you are right.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:38 PM
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13. ROFFPNMFPLMFAO.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:40 PM
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15. K&R
Love what you have to say.
:loveya:
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:42 PM
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17. A candidate with progressive principals who knows what he/she wants
and how to get it is what the voters are looking for. IMHO.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:45 PM
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20. well find that damn woman/man
and make sure he/she has a 50/50 chance of winning and work your heart out to make it happen.

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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:45 PM
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21. i am pretty sure he is the first candidate in the history of the senate
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 11:45 PM by paulsby
who was once a sexiest man by cosmo.

that's almost as weird as being a republican senator from MA
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CoffinEd Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:51 PM
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23. He's not even a one termer
More like a two-yearer. And, yes, some of us MA residents are still in full possession of our damn minds. B-)

Regarding finding a candidate with a personality and credentials to run against "posing" Scott, I voted for a progressive candidate named http://www.house.gov/capuano/">Mike Capuano in the primaries; however, he (as well as others) lost to Coakley. I hope he considers running again in 2012.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:54 PM
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24. since you are there
How long before buyer's remorse sets in?
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CoffinEd Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:02 AM
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26. Can't say for sure...
I didn't vote for Brown and none of my friends did either. Remember too we've had several Republican governors and back in the 60's the state elected a black Republican named Ed Brooke to the US Senate. But to answer your question as best I can, I don't think he'll make it to 2012 politically unscathed. At least I hope not.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:04 AM
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27. thanks for the input
it's just amazing that coakly made it out of a primary. She must have been very well connected.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:08 AM
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28. I've read on here that
she had the Mass party machine behind her..that doesn't always work out as we know.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:11 AM
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30. guess they couldn't do everything for her
she had to get off her ass and do something I suppose. Or at least look like she was doing something.

Bless her heart.
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CoffinEd Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:22 AM
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33. To a certain extent
Someone posted that she was supported by the Democratic power brokers in the western part of the state (as that's where she is from), but wasn't well liked or supported by their Boston counterparts. She's always had a reputation of being somewhat distant and a poor campaigner, but I never knew she was this laxed, if you will.

Oh well, on to 2012.
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CoffinEd Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:13 AM
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31. Seems that way...
And she had the name recognition from having served as state AG for many years. Rest assured, Brown will not be sitting in Ted's old seat for much longer than his placeholder status allows. I guess you can say that Brown is our version of Roland Burris in that both are seat warmers.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:17 AM
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32. when he loses will it be a referendum on the GOP
or the teabaggers? lol
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CoffinEd Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:29 AM
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36. One can only hope
But Brown has been trying to play down his associations with the tea baggers and other right-wing nut jobs, and make believe he's a throw back to the old-time moderate Republicans that were common in MA politics; many of whom were fiscally conservative but socially liberal. Brown is nothing more than a faker and a lightweight to boot.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:27 AM
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34. It's a very
comforting thought.

And, he must know he's on thin ice with that. The only thing is the corporatemediawhores will play this to the hilt and if we're not hearing about palin one minute.. we have to be subjected to her male counterpart.
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CoffinEd Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:46 AM
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37. Yep,
You're absolutely right. Heck, I even had to stop listening to the local call-in sports shows because just about all the hosts were proudly stumping for Brown. It's like he was receiving free advertising. And I know they will be crowing and patting each other on the backs for the next several days.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:52 AM
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38. Do they care how this look
to the rest of the country. The message it sends that Mass elected a teabagger?
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CoffinEd Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:25 AM
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42. Some folks do...
Others don't. Many people fail to realize that just because MA is often associated with liberal/liberalism that we have our share of right-wing nut jobs too who are always looking to elect one of their kind to a local, state, or national office. And it seems tonight they joined forces with right-leaning "Independents" and, according to some reports, more than a few (around 20%) disgruntled Democrats to successfully elect Brown the teabagger to the US Senate. Of course, had Coakley run a better campaign we might not be talking about Scott Brown now.

Also, not sure if I mentioned this before but Coakley didn't receive the support of the governor or the mayor of Boston. Both were behind State Representative Mike Capuano in the primaries. Just a little something else to think about.

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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:56 PM
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25. I hate to say it, but I am upset
I've been one of the ones who has supported Obama and to a point even defended the HCR bill. Even though I wasn't exactly happy about it I was willing to wait for reconcilation. Now, I'm afraid even that's not going to get done. It was passed with a small majority in both chambers. House Democrats are quaking in the boots right now. It all rides on them and if 5 or so defect, we are truly screwed.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:27 AM
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35. Nope, not calming down. People are wearing brown clothes tomorrow in support of Brown.
Brownshirts...for real.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:57 AM
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39. Well, brown is going to shit on the people
of Mass..so they will go well with the whole brown theme.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:05 AM
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40. +1 n/t
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 01:24 AM
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41. It's really difficult to unseat a Senator.
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 01:25 AM by Zoeisright
I don't think we have a chance in hell of getting anything done now. The window of opportunity for President Obama and the Democrats was very small and they blew it. They're too timid, haven't forced change, and bowed down to the corporate masters instead of listening to the people who elected them wanting change.

It's over.

And on edit: This country is going to get exactly what's coming to it. Disaster after 30 years of Repukes trying to ruin everything.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:05 AM
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44. NO, it's not over and I've Enough of this doom and
gloom bullshit around here from everyone thinking they know something bc scott brown pulled the wool over the majority in Mass.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:03 AM
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43. Hear Hear.
The second he heads for DC and starts spouting teabagger talking points in public, he's going to ensure he never wins in Mass again.
What it comes down to is not losing any more ground and keeping the presidency. As long as that happens, that seat will come straight back. At least if we don't run another godawful person. There are airlines with less baggage than the Dem in that race had. (Which I wasn't comfortable talking much about before the race was over.) Plus she was easily one of the worst campaigners ever.

There's also the possibility that a real economic turnaround (AKA, something that isn't a jobless recovery) will gain us seats in other states.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:15 AM
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Angee, but this was Ted Kennedy's seat and then a rethug won, am
not sure what to say! Wish Ms. Coakley ran a better campaign or are they being told to lose?
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:15 AM
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45. delete
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 03:19 AM by akbacchus_BC
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