Can you see FDR, Truman, JFK, LBJ or Carter not pushing thru real HCR

[hulka38]

with a solid PO under these circumstances?

[FrenchieCat]

1. PO was just invented recently...so yeah.

[babylonsister]

2. OK. Give us a scenario where the PO would be accepted by the

majority of Dems and rethugs. I'm all ears. Thanks!

[BunkerHill24]

3. not with 60 Senators, and two thirds of the house....

No,,,the answer is no.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

5. LBJ had 64 Dems in the Senate for the Civil Rights Act and 282 Dems in the House

He had BETTER than Obama had now and he had Republicans who weren't batshit insane. And here we are 40 years later with no HC.

[BunkerHill24]

11. I stand corrected

That's sad though when you consider the political capital Mr. Obama had coming in as the newly elected first African-American president.

[marybourg]

12. LBJ had even greater political capitol -- as a VP suddenly

stepping in after JFK's assassination. Truman, maybe not so much, even though he was suddenly elevated after Roosevelt's death. But neither of them managed it.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

4. Umm...considering LBJ had *better* than these circumstances and didn't push thorugh Health Care...

I guess I can.

[frazzled]

6. BIngo: and neither did Kennedy or Truman or FDR

and they all tried.

[andym]

8. If anyone had a supermajority AND a cooperative oppostion party

it was LBJ.

[quiller4]

7. Well yes. What Truman proposed and ultimately gave up on

had nothing approximating a public option.

[liberalpragmatist]

9. Um... they didn't pass HCR

Of any sort.

[Ildem09]

10. Medicare/ Medicade?

Truman was the first enrolee of Medicare. LBJ signed him up when he signed the bill into law. which was actually an amendment to the SSA of 1937

[Mimosa]

13. NO...and I know why.

My president, whom I hope will grow in the job, lost touch. Once elected he did not follow through.

health care reform should not have been turned over to Congress to screw around with. Obama had promised simplicity and a simple understandable process to get there, not wheeling and dealing for 9 months.

[Hekate]

14. Actually, yes. Seven (count 'em, 7) Presidents have been unable to pass health care reform. Okay?

Barack Obama has gotten farther with HCR than SEVEN PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS.

HEKATE

:argh:

[treestar]

15. yes I can see that

I can see that they did not.