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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:19 AM
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DU will not learn that policy means zilch. Assertiveness is what counts. Voters want pushy, even if
they are lying.

A doormat for a candidate is never going to get elected. Its' that feeling in the gut that counts, wimps need to work on committees and not be pushed into being candidates.

Getting elected is an art form and we better learn how to run for office, be noisy, be bold and be assertive.

I hate saying I told you so, but....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:22 AM
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:23 AM
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2. Is that how Kucinich won the Presidency?
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:44 AM
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12. gee, I don't remember Kucinich getting the big media boost, do you?
In fact, I remember him being totally mimimized, mocked, ridiculed, and even LITERALLY cut out of photographs.
I remember "democrats" here on DU mocking and ridiculing him, calling him a "gnome" and referring to UFOs and other irrelevant nonsense while they preached the gospel of conformist, milquetoast, corporate kiss-ass DLCism.
Dean got the same treatment--he was officially unplugged after the first primary by simple media manipulation.

Obama and Hillary were chosen for us, so take your self-righteous idiotic blather and stuff a sock in it.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:25 AM
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3. You have to demonstrate a "bright personality" - that's why we should not allow
insiders to hand pick our candidates. :shrug:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:28 AM
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4. New report states that 70 percent of Americans don't want Pushy Palin to run n/t
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:33 AM
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5. But how will they vote if she does, thats what counts, not what they say. People lie to themselves.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:14 AM
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6. Grayson
There is a reason that no local big name Republican has signed up to take on Grayson. It is not policy. It is their fear of the campaign Grayson would run if seriously challenged. None of them want a piece of that.

Until Grayson, the seat was reliably Republican for 30+ years.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:22 AM
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7. One of the few REAL Democrats that gets it. Grayson '12
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:15 AM
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10. Personally
I would prefer to see him in the Senate.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:39 AM
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8. Then don't complain about what they do once elected
As long as they have "balls."
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nod factor Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:02 AM
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9. Does anyone even remember
anymore what won us control of the legislature in 2006 and hence by extension what gave Obama such a decisive win in 2008?

The two main sticking points against the GOP were always "they have displayed a culture of corruption" and "they have displayed a willingness to spend your children's future."

Well with the health care bill especially, the public perception is these pieces of legislation are the embodiment of those two things.

The corruptible fashion in which they are being forged and the fact that they are x-thousand page pieces of future spending.

They may say in the long run it will make things better and bring the deficit down but can you really blame the public for not assuming benevolence from the powers that be after 8 years of debauchery?

I do believe there was hope for much needed change one year ago but more and more it seems to me the team from the Chi is just taking the 8 yr Longhorn blueprint on how to make good use of a crisis to increase power and control, the electorate be damned because the powers know what's best and the people are sheep.
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SanchoPanza Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:25 AM
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11. Voters care fuckall about assertiveness on its own.
Same is true with bipartisanship.

Someone who's been out of work for a year and is on their last extension of unemployment benefits and access to COBRA isn't going to vote for someone who promises them the sky and fails to deliver. People want results. You get results through policy. You get policy from politicians who are more concerned with doing their job than keeping their job.

You know... that whole "Progress" part of being a "Progressive".
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