Massachusetts Democrats didn't like the centrist crap Obama & the corporate Dems are peddling

[brentspeak]

Like dispirited Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents all around the country have been trying to get the White House and Congress to hear for a year now: Act like REAL Democrats, not like corporate suck-ups. Try to be Republican-lite, and the real Republican will usually win.

[NJmaverick]

1. The independents elected Brown, so your claims are inaccurate

[brentspeak]

3. Except for the 22% of Mass. Democrats voting who voted for Brown

and all the other Mass. Democrats who simply stayed home, and all the independents who have voted for Ted Kennedy in the past, you're correct.

[treestar]

6. every single one of them deserves every filibuster Brown cooperates in

and if they are uninsured or unemployed, their complaints are of no interest.

[BeyondGeography]

11. You're saying these were progressive, liberal Dems. who were sending a message about centrism?

I look forward to the data that proves you wrong about that. MA Dems. are a diverse bunch; plenty of Reagan Dems. among them who always stuck by Teddy but have strayed to people like Romney and Weld in the past. I suspect these are the majority of the 22% you cite, not progressive puritans.

[ampad]

14. Well screw the 22% that did vote for Brown

I guess that were not concern about the center, now were they?

[Laelth]

13. The base stayed home.

Blaming independents is the surest path to failing to learn from one's mistakes.

Energizing the base is the way to win elections.

Mere here: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Laelth/41

:dem:

-Laelth

[marylanddem]

2. Absofuckinglutely.

[treestar]

4. If that is true, then let them enjoy the Republican Senator who will surely

get them everything they want.

If the Democrats could not satisfy them, it's hard to see how the Republicans will.

Stay home in November and nurse your "disappointment" some more. I'm sure you can get even more "disillusioned."

[BeyondGeography]

5. And that's how we lost independents?

:dunce:

[ellie]

7. So they elect a teabagger?

I don't follow this logic.

[Freddie Stubbs]

8. But they did like what Brown was peddling?

:shrug:

[GoCubsGo]

15. Exactly right.

They found Libertarian teabaggery better? Some of the finger-pointing today really boggles the mind.

[Kahuna]

9. Really???? Got any proof? nt

[brentspeak]

12. How many Democrats showed up to vote yesterday?

Case closed.

[vaberella]

10. Your statement doesn't make an iota of sense.

So Dems and Independents who lean Dem, would use this voting as a way to show that Dems need to change their tune or they'll all vote Republican. Even if the Republican is against their best interest?! That makes no logical sense. Then to say the Dems are Republican light...and there fore the real repub will win. Well if it's true that citizens are more left and not right...why would they vote for either the Repub or the Repub-light?! Look don't be tossing out blame here and passing it off as though you're making sense. Because your statement is nonsense. Your turning this into a some sort of personal thing much like another poster who seemed to revel in posting a topic about "I told you so---from liberal bloggers..." Assumes that they're conclusions were a natural prediction when in reality it could go either way.

[TankLV]

16. No - YOU don't "get it".

Just as you are doing here - when you constantly bash the left - do not expect us to SHOW UP to vote for the results of that decision!!!

You constantly bash us, then are utterly dumbfounded when we stay away...

YOU don't get it...

[ampad]

18. Then freaking stay home!!!!

Seriously stay your happy asses at home. When the next Repug president gets in there you can be all smug and say I told you so. While that asshole plans to upstage the chimp because as we all know Repigs have to upstage each other. Stay home! while you are at it. Get off your asses and actually try to get a viable freaking green party candidate. You see, this is what pisses me off about some of you. You complain that the left has left the party. Well then fine, go and build the green party. Yet the green party cannot, for some reason, get it together. You are probably right. The left has left the party. Stay home then. Take your ball and call it a day. No matter how much you want to think that you run things by staying home; I have to tell you that you are fooling yourself. If that were the case, if it were true, then you think that you all could get it together to get some viable green candidates elected. More than one or two that is, elected to office. We all know that is not the case.

This particular candidate ran a crappy campaign. She is to blame. But hey, if you want to blame everyday dems for handing this seat over to a repug then I guess good for you. I wonder if they are sitting at home, sipping coffee, thinking about how "they showed them." For some reason I think the only ones doing that are those of you here on DU and so called "liberal bloggers."

[vaberella]

20. Your post is as stupid as the OPs.

The reason anyone votes is because it means they are participating in the governmental process. Why would anyone, even if they disagreements with their base party at large, would vote contrary to most of their ideals...because of hurt feelings?! It's absurd, childish, and petty...just like you obviously are. Ugh.

[phleshdef]

17. So to punish them, they elect a corporatist Republican? You completely lack any sense of logic.

[frazzled]

19. RIght: that is why 22% of Democrats voted for Scott Brown

You guys just want to see through your own glasses.