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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:01 PM
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Poll question: Will Obama now FINALLY start to lean on corrupt blue dogs & DLC instead of progressive base?
his cozy relationship with the corporate branch of the party has led to fatally flawed legislation at best like the health care ''reform'' and at worst, inaction like on Wall Street when he put the criminals in charge instead of putting their heads on sticks and feeding their entrails to dogs.

Thanking Joe Lieberman for his ''help'' on health care reform was the crowning insult, essentially shitting in the face of the people who voted for him.

We needed and I voted for the next FDR. What we got is a cross between Papa Bush and Bill Clinton at best.

Will Obama change course, or ride the DLC plane going down in flames all the way into the ground?

PS: Making progressive noises while pursuing the same policies with the same corporate shills in place is NOT changing course.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:02 PM
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1. Since Brown won the independent vote, President Obama is not
likely to take a turn to the left and further alienate the middle and independents.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:47 PM
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8. LOL- with attitudes like this- no wonder Democrats are such perennial losers
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 06:47 PM by depakid
Since when have Republicans- who've been perennial winners (until their policies come home to roost) ever worried about bullshit like that?

Hint: Never.

They stand up and fight for what they "believe in" -or pretend to believe in. And they win policy battle after policy battle even when they're on the verge of having been relegated to the fringe for a generation!

If there's a political party that seems more bound and determined over the past 2 decades to look weak, ineffectual- and downright pathetic than the Democrats, it would be tough to find.

Can't really think of one in the other western nations. British Labor is as close as I can figure (and they're on the way out bigtime in 2010).

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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:52 PM
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9. Nor should he.
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:20 PM
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11. Yes, because you win independents - who by definition have no party allegiance -
by signaling you're devoid of principles.

As another poster said in his reply to you, no wonder Democrats lose with "logic" like this.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:09 PM
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3. DLC boogieman is lame - unrec & hide
:eyes:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:41 PM
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12. Classic:


Now there's a poster with credibility!
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:10 PM
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4. Other: More populist rhetoric with more corporatist policy
AKA

Auguring into the ground in a vain effort to please everyone.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:19 PM
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5. C. Will Obama stop beating his wife in the head with a gumbi stick
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 02:22 PM
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6. Independents and moderates voted for the GOP in MA - thats why dems lost
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 02:22 PM by stray cat
You can't win elections by pampering a base and ignoring the 30% independents and at least another 10% of moderate repubs. Obama was not elected president by only his base!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 06:37 PM
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7. so independents don't want real health care reform and they don't want Wall St. punished?
DC uses independents and moderates as a fig leaf for pandering to banks, Wall Street, and corporations.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 07:13 PM
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10. Just more DLC loser talk
Same as it was throughout the 1990's.

Some folks never learn (or perhaps- they actually support the unpopular- and often destructive right wing policies that result).
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