Obama: Senate Will Not Vote On Health Care Before Brown Is Seated

[ProSense]

Obama: Senate Will Not Vote On Health Care Before Brown Is Seated

Rachel Slajda

President Obama told ABC News today that the Senate will not attempt to pass health care reform before Sen.-elect Scott Brown (R-MA) is sworn in.

"Here's one thing I know and I just want to make sure that this is off the table. The Senate certainly shouldn't try to jam anything through until Scott Brown is seated," Obama said. "People in Massachusetts spoke. He's got to be part of that process."

He also urged people to look at the "substance" of the health care bill.

"It is very important to look at the substance of this package and for the American people to understand that a lot of the fear mongering around this bill isn't true," he said.

"I would advise that we try to move quickly to coalesce around those elements of the package that people agree on. We know that we need insurance reform, that the health insurance companies are taking advantage of people. We know that we have to have some form of cost containment ... Those are the core, some of the core elements of, to this bill," Obama said.

Asked about Obama's comments, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said the White House still doesn't have a concrete plan on how to move forward with health care.

"There are a lot of different paths forward. We'll get an opportunity in the coming hours or days to know exactly what that path is," he said.

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[freddie mertz]

1. Well, there you have it. The old bad dream of "bipartisanship" is back for an encore.

Looks like the pubs really DID win a "national election" yesterday.

[ProSense]

3. "People in Massachusetts spoke...."

I guess that'll show them failed.

[freddie mertz]

6. I can't even decipher your syntax. nt.

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[QC]

21. Do you remember ELIZA?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

[freddie mertz]

22. That's GREAT. I do think the machine has got a "bug" in it today.

Spewing random, ad hominem recriminations at anything in it's path.

THIS DOES NOT COMPUTE!




Warning! Warning! Danger, Will Robinson!

[qazplm]

8. wait

didnt folks want this to be tweaked some more, i.e. go back to the Senate anyways?

[freddie mertz]

16. Yes. But the tone here seems to be the old, let's reach out to the puke routine.

I hope is a dodge.

[mdmc]

2. "substance" = increased costs for medical treatment for me and 85% of voters

I can't afford medical treatment now. This bill will make it even more expensive.

[jefferson_dem]

4. I'm cool with this.

Seat the fucker then do it.

[Ken Burch]

5. Proving our party's leaders never WANTED health care reform

Might as well admit it, ProSense. We've been had.

We have to drive all the "pro-business types" out and make this a people's party at last.

Even YOU can't disagree with that now.

Last night was the final repudiation of bland, timid centrism.

[phleshdef]

9. Thats fucking stupid. If they didn't want it, this whole process never would have started...

...and all the political capital that has been spent on it would not have been spent. Disagree with the bill thats fine. But to say they never wanted to pass a reform bill is moronic.

[ProSense]

10. "Might as well admit it, ProSense. We've been had." Speak for yourself

The people who sat out the vote got what they wanted: Brown in the Senate.

[Ken Burch]

11. There was a massive turnout.

You can't blame Brown on the left and you know it.

[ProSense]

13. There was not a massive turnout. n/t

[Ken Burch]

17. IT's been PROVED that the left wasn't to blame

You only represent the tiny DLC minority that never led this party to anything good.

[freddie mertz]

18. I don't get to vote in Mass. anymore.

I didn't sit out anything.

Neither did the vast majority of us.

WTF is wrong with you?

[Ken Burch]

23. The SenseBot is doing what it's right-wing masters programmed it to do.

It's working to commit the party to failure. Everyone knows after last night that centrism will now ALWAYS equal failure for this party, and that's why the SenseBot is insisting on it.

[freddie mertz]

24. But the Sense-maker is not making sense!

Reminds of Landru from Star Trek classic... after Kirk and Spock got his circuits all confused.

[Ian David]

12. Bipartisanship with Republicans is date-rape.

It is INSANE to expose your throat to those people like that.

[Ian David]

14. 82% of Obama Voters who Voted for Brown in MA Support the Public Option (~10% of total vote)

82% of Obama Voters who Voted for Brown in MA Support the Public Option (~10% of total vote)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7521534

[freddie mertz]

20. So, maybe if they had a public option to VOTE for, they would have voted another way.

Ah, the Massachusetts electorate.

[CrispyQ]

15. "...White House still doesn't have a concrete plan on how to move forward with health care."

That's been evident for some time now. :eyes:

I would have thought Obama would have figured out by now that more bipartisanship isn't going to help his cause. Oh wait, what is his cause again? To help the American people with health care availability & costs, or to insure the profits of the health insurance industry? Oh, the irony - that Americans are going to insure health insurance profits. That's just too damned funny. See me laughing.

:banghead:

[freddie mertz]

19. Did they ever?

The Blind Leading the Blind, into a Ditch.

[timeforpeace]

28. Even though all of 2009 was devoted to it.

[wowimthere]

25. Again... here we go again... Democrats never learn. You can not keep negotiating with

people who want to take your power and use it to further their own agenda. Here we go with the bi-partisan crap again!

[Clio the Leo]

26. Doing otherwise would NOT play well politically...

.... no matter how much WE would like them to.

But I think he's got something up his sleeve.

[Ken Burch]

27. Haven't Lieberman and Nelson pretty much shredded his sleeves by now?

n/t.

[quantass]

30. Wouldnt play well?!? Name somethig that has played well up to this point. nt

[quantass]

29. It's going to be a bloodbath in November

Ah yes, i see nothing has been learned....signs of whats to come if baffling decisions like this continue to be made.

For those looking for quality healthcare i recommend you marry up by looking to Canada.

[Blaukraut]

31. I just broke my back

bending over backwards to make excuses for Obama. I've given him the benefit of the doubt with his approach to the healthcare bill time and time again. I'm done. Fuck it. The sad thing is that not only are the President and the Dems digging their own political graves, they're taking a hell of a lot of innocent bystanders - i.e. the American people - with them in the process.

[ellie]

32. Awesome!

Then reform will be dead for another generation! Thank god I have insurance!